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FreeJoe

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40. Aside from the obvious math error,
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 10:41 PM
Nov 2013

life isn't that simple.

1) There is a lot of overhead in an employee. When I hire a full time employee, I have to put them in an office. I have to train them. I have to provide benefits to them. All of these overhead costs typically cost as much or more as their salary and most of them are the same cost regardless of how many hours the employee works. Because of that, if I worked them 13.8% less, I would save only about 6-7% of their costs.

2) At least where I work, productivity increases more than linearly with hours worked. If someone works 13.8% less, I will lose more than 13.8% in productivity. I know this because we have an unofficial reduced time track for people that need shorter work schedules. They typically work four eight hours days a week. It is a popular option with moms and employees easing into retirement. Some of the difference in productivity per hour is an illusion because these people put in proportionally fewer overtime hours, but some also comes from the fixed costs of having a job.

3) The pool of people with jobs and without jobs are not the same. While there are definitely people with tremendous human capital out of work and some dreadful employees, the median employed person is going to have more valuable skills than the median unemployed person or person not in the labor force. If you take a percentage of a job from someone with higher skills and give it to a person with lower skills, you will lose productivity.

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I have not, but my husband has pretty much seen exactly that. Added to that the fact he is 57. Mass Nov 2013 #1
I got an email from a recruiter that made it clear that anyone Kahuna Nov 2013 #2
Definitely. enlightenment Nov 2013 #27
And that is illegal - Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #32
There has to be a business model out there Turbineguy Nov 2013 #3
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #5
I worked for a company like that FreeJoe Nov 2013 #36
on a positve note, they're mandated to buy health insurance they cant afford to pay for KG Nov 2013 #4
At least they can blame the Republicans for it n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #6
Can't have those health insurance CEOs suffer any financial hardship, now can we? SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #8
This is not new-- we've seen it before, usually... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #7
birth rate decline will be offset by immigration Enrique Nov 2013 #9
Exactly right. And this will result in a disaster. Can you see boomersense Nov 2013 #11
Where in the TPP does it say that our employment discrimination laws treestar Nov 2013 #18
It doesn't-- just another talking point... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #24
Of course immigration will-- that's the natural order of things... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #28
About 13.8% of the US is unemployed. fasttense Nov 2013 #12
The population of the United States is around 317 million people. SheilaT Nov 2013 #17
I went back to the BLS and I can't seem to find that number again. fasttense Nov 2013 #22
The problem with going in blindly and looking up numbers without a background... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #30
That's been experimented with in Europe... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #26
Aside from the obvious math error, FreeJoe Nov 2013 #40
that's fucked up gopiscrap Nov 2013 #10
If only the job creators MythosMaster Nov 2013 #13
I'd rather see them taxed on unused funds dickthegrouch Nov 2013 #14
why do they need that as incentive? treestar Nov 2013 #16
I have a suspicion . . . Brigid Nov 2013 #19
That swooshing noise you heard MythosMaster Nov 2013 #20
Sometimes you need to use the emotion treestar Nov 2013 #21
Sometimes you need to use common sense. MythosMaster Nov 2013 #23
And yet money for the poor only make THEM indolent.. annabanana Nov 2013 #29
Wonder how right wingers respond to that treestar Nov 2013 #15
Billionaires don't care= Politicians don't care. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #25
My current job ends at the end of the year and I understand the need to find a job before I'm out of kimbutgar Nov 2013 #31
You may get lucky. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #34
Unemployed for two years - this is what I did MsFlorida Nov 2013 #33
Good for you! Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #37
It is a catch-22 FreeJoe Nov 2013 #35
I know hiring - from most all industries MsFlorida Nov 2013 #38
Retirement age needs to be lowered, not raised. truebluegreen Nov 2013 #39
You don't get hired in most places if you worked a job represented buy a union either n/t doc03 Nov 2013 #41
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