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Douglas Carpenter

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10. you are being cynical and disingenuous

Reply to Nye Bevan (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 10:02 AM

Nov 2013

There is not a single person in America including you that doesn't know for an absolute certainty and beyond the slightest shadow of any doubt that the overwhelming majority of funding for federal campaigns comes from corporations. You and everyone else in America knows and knows beyond a shadow of doubt that those laws are meaningless. Funding is simply filtered through PACS and committees in a way that technically fulfill the letter of the law - while insuring corporations provide the bulk of funding for federal campaigns.

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Can you run a viable Presidential campaign without corporate $$$? [View all] cali Nov 2013 OP

Ya, but Howard lost Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #1

so what does that have to do with the OP? Nothing cali Nov 2013 #2

What does it have to do with the OP? A lot Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #3

How has he succumbed to the corporate cash model? cali Nov 2013 #4

When you come out and say... Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #8

he hasn't officially endorsed her. cali Nov 2013 #9

LOL. Of course he's not going to "officially" endorse someone years before the primary even starts Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #11

post the link. cali Nov 2013 #13

Howard Dean: 'At This Point, I'm Supporting Hillary Clinton' Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #15

That's from August. Since then, he's talked about running himself cali Nov 2013 #16

I know it's painful, but reality sucks sometimes. Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #18

lol. it's not painful, and Dean may well cali Nov 2013 #19

Why should I present an argument that progressives should support Hillary? That's silly. Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #21

And I'll also add to your subthread�. Dean did NOT RUN AS AN UNABASHED LIBERAL/ KittyWampus Nov 2013 #27

yes, he did. cali Nov 2013 #29

I'm curious Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #30

No he did not Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #31

Since it is illegal for corporations to contribute to federal election candidates' campaigns, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #5

you are being cynical and disingenuous Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #10

Disturbing to see both that claim and the cali Nov 2013 #17

If one relates to politics on idealistic principle of wanting to move the country forward and seek a Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #20

that's a thin veil. In reality corporations finance candidates cali Nov 2013 #12

So why did anyone go to the trouble of filing the lawsuit you cite, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #22

oh just cut the Crap. You are not serious Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #24

They wanted to extend their control And that happened with CU cali Nov 2013 #25

with the right Internet savvy teams mixed with aggressive grassroots organizing a lot can be done Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #6

No, you can not... GladRagDahl Nov 2013 #7

Probably yes Fumesucker Nov 2013 #14

Factual and informative OP. Thanks. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #23

"unabashed liberal". WRONG. Total rewrite of history which many DU'ers will sign on to... KittyWampus Nov 2013 #26

he had a history as a centrist - many actual positions were centrist - but he did run as an Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #28