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greatlaurel

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57. Well said!

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:58 AM

Nov 2013

It is time to look to Finland's system. It does not enrich the corporations but educates all children regardless of their economic class. We can do this here. I hope you are right about the awakening of the suburban folks.

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Arne Duncan: ‘White suburban moms’ upset that Common Core shows their kids aren’t ‘brilliant’ [View all] boston bean Nov 2013 OP

Letting Arne out of his cage is always dicey. Total mouth breather. MichiganVote Nov 2013 #1

Arne Duncan upset because not everyone believes his BS. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #2

piss on Arne Duncan KG Nov 2013 #3

What's wrong with common core? Android3.14 Nov 2013 #4

The common core standards LWolf Nov 2013 #12

+1. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #22

By misuse and abuse Android3.14 Nov 2013 #54

That's certainly one. LWolf Nov 2013 #99

You cannot teach children anything with a system that is based on constant testing. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #51

Yes and no. Android3.14 Nov 2013 #56

Yes, I did mean Standardized testing. And I also despise the pressure to pass students before they sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #62

"It's only going to get worse" Android3.14 Nov 2013 #84

More myths about American schools duffyduff Nov 2013 #68

Perhaps you could back that up with a little data? Android3.14 Nov 2013 #82

Is there a RW meme you don't post on DU? MattBaggins Nov 2013 #83

Weird Android3.14 Nov 2013 #85

And what Arne is proposing is what has been tried in those other countries, right? joeybee12 Nov 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Nov 2013 #125

Please, some citations would be helpful Android3.14 Nov 2013 #126

Dear Duncpig, education of our children is not a competition like your anti gay Olympics in Sochi Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #5

How is the Obama's choice to educate their children at a religious instiution 'tacky?' msanthrope Nov 2013 #13

Sidwell is not known for it's religious education - TBF Nov 2013 #17

I think your post reflects an ignorance of how Quaker schools operate. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #34

Sure - while yours indicates you will say anything to excuse TBF Nov 2013 #38

What action? That the President has the right to send his kids to a religious school? msanthrope Nov 2013 #39

FFS ... No one sends anyone to Sidwell Friends because it is "religious" - TBF Nov 2013 #44

As the parent of a child in a Friend's School, I often encounter the 'Quakerism isn't a 'real' msanthrope Nov 2013 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author TBF Nov 2013 #47

Royal Rivera pears are lovely. Perhaps you meant to link something else? nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #52

thanks TBF Nov 2013 #55

If we had one locally I'd work three jobs to send my child. nt xmas74 Nov 2013 #112

Other presidential kids have gone to Sidwell KamaAina Nov 2013 #63

Did they end up moving her? TBF Nov 2013 #64

Great heavens, you're right KamaAina Nov 2013 #65

Chelsea Clinton went there and Biden's grandkids- but Bush? I do not thhink so lunasun Nov 2013 #127

You're right, it was Chelsea KamaAina Nov 2013 #129

I went to schools like Sidwell, which is why I can read. I did not say the school is tacky I said Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #21

Umm . . hueymahl Nov 2013 #27

apparently mr sidwell can read but has poor comprehension leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #32

Really? You went to a Friend's school? And you dare criticize others who send their kids? nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #35

So you don't want Sidwell Standards for all children, just for the top 1%? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #60

You want a religious education for all American children, complete with missonary work? msanthrope Nov 2013 #61

You are opposed to the Sidwell standards of education for everyone except the children of the 1% sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #73

You want the government to promote Quaker educational standards? msanthrope Nov 2013 #74

You don't want the standards available to the 1% to be available to everyone else? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #78

Not religious ones. That's a parent's choice, not to be forced by government. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #80

It's clear that you oppose the same educational standards available for the wealthy for the masses. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #96

And there we have it! Speculations as to.the President's true religion! msanthrope Nov 2013 #98

Why are you struggling so hard to keep Sidwell Educational Standards from the general public? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #106

Thank you Sabrina, for asking what the President's real religion is. I think it revealing. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #107

Can't answer the simple question? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #122

I don't answer your questions, Sabrina. You know that. But thanks for asking what the President's msanthrope Nov 2013 #123

Sure you do, each time you try so hard to distract from the questions, you answer them sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #124

I'm sorry that you needed a private school to learn how to read.. whathehell Nov 2013 #76

Did the nuns in Catholic school really walk around brandishing rulers? Brigid Nov 2013 #91

Nah.. whathehell Nov 2013 #93

their kids learn to think and create, our kids learn to obey and fill in bubbles on tests yurbud Nov 2013 #102

The snarling hate in that post is bewildering to see Number23 Nov 2013 #79

How dare the Obamas not use their children as political pawns! Some posters obviously msanthrope Nov 2013 #81

because they are pushing policies on public schools to do things their kids school wouldn't yurbud Nov 2013 #101

The Obama's don't set policy at Sidwell, and aren't obligated to use their msanthrope Nov 2013 #105

what is it that makes that public school different from Sidwell Friends and less safe? yurbud Nov 2013 #108

Why would you expect taxpayers who are sending their children to the public school to msanthrope Nov 2013 #111

I suspect it's also because those schools aren't as safe because of overcrowding and under-staffing, yurbud Nov 2013 #115

That's a sweeping generalization of the DC schools. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #118

I meant it to be a sweeping generalization of all public schools and yurbud Nov 2013 #121

but its ok to use other peoples kids as political pawns? yurbud Nov 2013 #109

Kindly name a child you think the President is using as pawn. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #113

by your definition, any kid that attends public schools being "reformed" by Arne Duncan yurbud Nov 2013 #114

I think you misunderstood my definition. But kindly name a child you think is a pawn. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #116

Do you think the Obamas would WANTredundant standardized testing and a much narrower curriculum yurbud Nov 2013 #117

I have no idea what private, family decisions went into their choice. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #119

that's weasling out of it yurbud Nov 2013 #120

a they cling to their guns & their religion Danmel Nov 2013 #6

I liked education writer Anthony Cody's response to this: Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #7

Is Ms Duncan's tutoring firm still in business? Smarmie Doofus Nov 2013 #11

Excellent! Duncan must urely be Obama's single worst appointment, QC Nov 2013 #14

No argument from me. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #15

Does he have any actual qualifications for working in education? QC Nov 2013 #18

Nope. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #23

you would think that would be a requirement for all administrators yurbud Nov 2013 #50

Under present "Reform" those are perfect qualifications kmlisle Nov 2013 #29

Sadly, you are right. QC Nov 2013 #33

The worst cabinet appointment EVER by ANY president. Duncan is a moron, and I am duffyduff Nov 2013 #71

Lol, excellent response from Cody. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #130

Sounds like he knows Halloween's over. The idea HAD been.... Smarmie Doofus Nov 2013 #8

Total BS. Our kids are doing fine on his precious tests TBF Nov 2013 #9

Common Core = ability to provide "education" on line TransitJohn Nov 2013 #10

+1 roody Nov 2013 #31

I oppose the testing side of Common Core. I think we need to be sure all kids are given a fair Mass Nov 2013 #16

Wow.. sendero Nov 2013 #19

It isn't "marginal"--that is a neoliberal falsehood. duffyduff Nov 2013 #70

Dude..... sendero Nov 2013 #72

Jonathan Kozol says the same thing about education in general alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #20

I think you're right gollygee Nov 2013 #30

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #46

While I agree that American schools are structurally racist I disagree that reform is a fix kmlisle Nov 2013 #42

Paragraph breaks are your friend when posting on this board. former9thward Nov 2013 #53

True dat ! lunasun Nov 2013 #128

Not seeing the political upside of such a statement BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #24

It's a perfect bookend to his one in 2010 about New Orleans. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #26

You got that right Starry. erodriguez Nov 2013 #97

Oh great, now Arne is insulting white suburban moms? proud2BlibKansan Nov 2013 #25

I wish she was thinking that, but is there evidence she'll dump "profits before people" approach? yurbud Nov 2013 #49

She'll fucking promote Arne MattBaggins Nov 2013 #88

duncan has/had his kids in the most expensive private school in chicago madrchsod Nov 2013 #28

Common core is more than just a set of standards onlyadream Nov 2013 #36

Fuck you Arne Duncan abelenkpe Nov 2013 #37

Yet it will be the non-asian minority kids who will do worse. AngryAmish Nov 2013 #40

I think there's some amount of truth in his comments, but it's not the biggest reason for opposition Renew Deal Nov 2013 #41

Note his comments attack parents rather than answer to the issues they raise. kmlisle Nov 2013 #43

this could be the beginning of the end for corporate education reform yurbud Nov 2013 #48

Well said! greatlaurel Nov 2013 #57

I sure hope you are right. nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #77

Arne Duncan is a shitwipe opportunist gopiscrap Nov 2013 #58

you mean he wasn't a corporate whore before and during? yurbud Nov 2013 #66

well that also! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #67

He's the kind of guy who would have been pulling gold fillings at the concentration camps yurbud Nov 2013 #69

I have complained about Arne from Day 1...and took quite a bit of heat from it. onpatrol98 Nov 2013 #59

The problem in the Arne Duncan / Obama system of making schools compete for resources is that the Erose999 Nov 2013 #75

I will say this for what Arne said dsc Nov 2013 #86

+1 gollygee Nov 2013 #87

the tests are designed to prove all public schools are failures yurbud Nov 2013 #89

I agree with you on that dsc Nov 2013 #92

I could see that being true. Coming from Duncan though it's like a cannibal telling you eat... yurbud Nov 2013 #100

+1 proud2BlibKansan Nov 2013 #94

If the went to W's prep school and gave him this test, would his score prove his teacher and school yurbud Nov 2013 #90

You tell 'em Arne! JoeyT Nov 2013 #95

when the Democrats lose it's because the DLC'ers kick progressive in the teeth yurbud Nov 2013 #104

NOW global? bobclark86 Nov 2013 #103