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In reply to the discussion: How come Hillary supporters can't present an argument for her? [View all]beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)First, I'm not saying Hillary is light on substance. I'm saying the argument of yours that you linked to is light on substance, and I'm saying that because it is. Or is a syllogism of the form "ad hominem attack" - "statement of the obvious" - "ad hominem attack" simply missing from my volume of Aristotle?
Obviously those relationships are huge, and factor into the "experience" argument. And the "experience" argument worked very well for George H. W. Bush. But that's all you're arguing. Vote for the boring person who's experienced and probably better than a Republican.
You vaguely insinuate in the linked post that Hillary is in favor of peace, too. I'll bet she is. I'll bet she even likes flowers and puppies, too. And guess what? That alone would, in fact, make her a better candidate than, say Mitt Romney, who was notably deficient in those areas. I'm sorry though, it doesn't get me excited. The bare minimum is not exciting.
Seriously, you're acting like we, as progressives, are somehow morally deficient because we get more excited about steak than beans. Or Maseratis than bicycles. Or San Diego than Nome. Or, God forbid, a thoughtful engagement on the issues than half-hearted platitudes.
What I'm really hoping is that someone, anyone will bring up some lesser-known remarks she's made which might give us hope. Or maybe make an argument along the lines of "she holds positions x and y, which means she might push for policy z". Or something outside the most banal and obvious that might cause us to reconsider our impressions of Hillary. It would appear that that's too much to ask.
Let's turn this around, though. Since we all know how Republicans have the election system rigged, we all know that turnout is going to be a big issue. Do you think "inevitability" plus "rolodex" is going to be a winning strategy for getting out lukewarm voters?
Frankly, I think Hillary will run, and I think she'll win, and I think she'll do it with my vote. I'd like someone to lay off the sophomoric snark and actually tell me something about her that (a) I may not know and (b) that might make me feel good about the vote I'll likely be casting.