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Cali_Democrat

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Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:42 PM Nov 2013

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that talk of 2016 is designed to distract from 2014 [View all]

Very likely to be a coordinated GOP/Tea Party/Libertarian effort.

They saw what happened in 2010 when Dems didn't go to the polls with nearly as much enthusiasm as 2008 and 2012. They were able to win 2010 in a land slide from the state houses to the US Congress. They were then able to redraw Congressional districts because of the 2010 census and the results were disastrous for Dems:

Despite the fact that Republican Congressional candidates received nearly 1.4 million fewer votes than Democratic candidates last November (2012), the Republicans lost only eight seats from their historic 2010 romp, allowing them to preserve a fat 33-seat edge in the House. Unscrupulous Republican gerrymandering following the 2010 census made the difference, according to a statistical analysis conducted by the Princeton Election Consortium.

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In Pennsylvania, Democratic candidates took 51 percent of the vote across the state's 18 districts, but only five of the seats.

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And Pennsylvania was not alone. According to the Election Consortium analysis, gerrymandering helped Republicans secure 13 seats in just six states – including Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Virginia and North Carolina – that, under normal rules of engagement, Democrats would have won.

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As Rove wrote in a Wall Street Journal column in early 2010: "He who controls redistricting can control Congress."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111


I suggest you read the entire article. It will blow your mind.

The GOP/Tea Party/Libertarians would like nothing more than to turn 2014 into another 2010. What better way than to get Dems to look past 2014 to 2016?

Don't let them distract you.
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Too true flamingdem Nov 2013 #1
Businessmen are focused. pscot Nov 2013 #9
In TX, we are focused ONLY on 2014, getting Wendy elected Governor! StopTheNeoCons Nov 2013 #27
A couple weeks ago, I started to warn of this. Savannahmann Nov 2013 #2
+1 freshwest Nov 2013 #25
+1 Hekate Nov 2013 #34
Damn skippy! riqster Nov 2013 #38
The govt shutdown will not be an issue. It is already birdcage lining. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #53
It is a great article Gothmog Nov 2013 #3
K&R YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #4
Do you think DUers who are posting about 2016 are playing into this? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #5
I absolutely do, but I know there are a few trolls on the site encouraging it. Just like the okaawhatever Nov 2013 #8
+1 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #6
It could be detrimental, or it could be stoking the populist fires for progressives in 2014. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #7
Oh, it's definitely detrimental. It is taking focus jazzimov Nov 2013 #10
That isn't until next year - we have plenty of time to get to the polls. polichick Nov 2013 #14
And the silliness here on DU is remarkable. longship Nov 2013 #11
What should we do to "gear up?" Stop talking, posting, thinking? polichick Nov 2013 #13
Start working on 2014!!! That's what. longship Nov 2013 #16
A person can be involved on the ground locally and still post on DU... polichick Nov 2013 #17
Ummm! Nobody is running for president yet in 2016. longship Nov 2013 #20
It's a message board - people post stuff. Read what you're interested in... polichick Nov 2013 #45
I havent found anyone running for 2014 yet. But in any case we can do both. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #51
Well, since Elizabeth Warren has signaled that she is not interested... longship Nov 2013 #54
Sen Warren is a politician. She wont be interested until she launches a campaign. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #57
So agreed, and even with the dream President treestar Nov 2013 #50
This is just a message board. Posting about 2016 presidential candidates... polichick Nov 2013 #12
Nope, it's to get started on pushing the national Party to the left. Scuba Nov 2013 #15
+1. Well said. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #24
I swear... ReRe Nov 2013 #40
there are a thousand topics to discuss G_j Nov 2013 #18
ridiculous. sometimes one really has to wonder. cali Nov 2013 #19
You're right, one really has to wonder Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #44
as I said, Creative Speculation is the appropriate forum for this nonsense, friend. cali Nov 2013 #56
Too bad for you, it's still here Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #58
There's nothing to stop you from starting as many 2014 threads as you want. winter is coming Nov 2013 #21
If you really believe that, I suggest requesting a ban on all 2016 talk in ask the admin forum quinnox Nov 2013 #22
The article is disheartening. They're working on 'fixing' the presidential elections, too Blaukraut Nov 2013 #23
Our only chance is a turnout in 2014. And I think it will be our last. That's why 2014 is much more. freshwest Nov 2013 #26
In TX, we are focused ONLY on 2014, getting Wendy elected Governor! StopTheNeoCons Nov 2013 #28
, blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #29
Hell yes DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #30
That's why they are fueling the Obamacare rage so much. It worked in 2010. ErikJ Nov 2013 #31
KnR. Dems remind me of my favorite ADD button: "Oooo, shiny." Hekate Nov 2013 #32
yep, it is all a conspiracy Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #33
While some of this might be true Phlem Nov 2013 #35
As Democrats we should have started organizing for 2014 Nov 7 2012 INdemo Nov 2013 #36
This Democrat is not looking past 2014 Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #37
I'm not sure if this exactly explains Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #39
Whole heartedly agree! gtar100 Nov 2013 #41
True or not, Brigid Nov 2013 #42
Thanks Cali_Democrat! BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #43
Not everything is a conspiracy OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #46
Oh come on. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #47
LOL. You need to educate yourself Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #49
Ok. I gotta... Skip Intro Nov 2013 #52
UNREC brooklynite Nov 2013 #48
Nonsense, Republicans are talking about 2016 as well. It's INTERESTING... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #55
If you still live in CA, why are you claiming that 2010 went poorly for your State? CA turnout was Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #59
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