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4. Dr. McClelland appears to support

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:54 PM

Nov 2013

the account of Dr. Curtis:

http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/what-did-dr-mcclelland-think-about-jfks-wounds/

The first senior physician to attend President Kennedy after he was fatally wounded in Dallas on November 22, 1963, was Dr. Robert McClelland of Parkland Hospital. By any standard, he is a credible witness.

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McClelland recounts when he was shown the JFK autopsy photos in 1988. He agreed the photos showed the president’s wounds as he saw them on November 22, 1963. The only exception, said Dr. McClelland, was the photo that showed the right rear JFK’s head. He said that a flap of scalp had been pulled over Kennedy’s fatal wound changing the appearance of the wound.

“That’s where there was a massive hole in the back of his head,” McClelland said. “I looked at that hole from 18 inches for about 12 minutes.”

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Don Curtis, Parkland resident, on JFK assassination: "the posterior part of his head was blown out." [View all] Karmadillo Nov 2013 OP

figures gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1

That's what I was told newfie11 Nov 2013 #2

I wonder how he saw that as the attending surgeon testified stopbush Nov 2013 #3

Dr. McClelland appears to support Karmadillo Nov 2013 #4

It says in the article that he picked the President's head up. Maraya1969 Nov 2013 #5

You'll reach for anything, won't you? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #26

The Parkland doctors were driven to invention Ace Acme Nov 2013 #66

Ha ha. Thumbs up. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #69

What a load of bullshit Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6

Please explain. nt Javaman Nov 2013 #18

I have further down thread. What a waste of our time Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #19

you have a few reponces, which one? please give me the reponce #. Thanks. nt Javaman Nov 2013 #36

The doctors at Parkland never saw the back of Kennedy's head. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #7

Wrong. Octafish Nov 2013 #43

No, it is you who are wrong, Octafish. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #44

McClelland was there. He reported what he saw. Octafish Nov 2013 #47

In order for the back of Kennedy's head to be blown out? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #52

Have you seen this? Samantha Nov 2013 #58

The autopsy doctors were there. They reported what they saw. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #60

Octafish, please give it up. There was NO conspiracy. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #97

Not until Oswald is proven to be a hero!!! zappaman Nov 2013 #101

..... GoneFishin Nov 2013 #104

That's not what he said in 1988: Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #46

McClelland reported what he saw. Posner reported what he wanted to say. Octafish Nov 2013 #48

And Jerome Corsi is a JFK conspiracy theorist. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #49

''So you can take that and stuff it up there where you get the rest of your ideas.'' Octafish Nov 2013 #50

No, the subject... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #51

No, that's bullshit generated for the likes of you. For those interested in learning... Octafish Nov 2013 #53

So the autopsy photos, X-rays, and Zapruder film are all faked? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #54

Scary, huh? Octafish Nov 2013 #55

I see, you can't actually read. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #56

Eyewitnesses have stated that is not what they saw. Octafish Nov 2013 #57

And? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #59

Awww looky he posted a huge reply in hopes it would magically prove him right! Rex Nov 2013 #61

The thing they never mention is how the CIA LIED to the Warren Commission. Octafish Nov 2013 #65

The evidence proves me right. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #83

Did you read the reply? Didn't think so. stopbush Nov 2013 #108

Yeah, Posner is a liar, Bugliosi is a liar, the Warren Commission were liars, etc. duffyduff Nov 2013 #98

Don't forget the doctors...they lied too. zappaman Nov 2013 #99

Anybody. And I mean ANYBODY watching Zapruder film Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #8

I saw organic matter fly upwards. Bonobo Nov 2013 #14

I saw a mist cloud of organic matter from front right of his head exploding Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #16

It happens just like this...graphic warning...watermelon destruction HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #40

WARNING: GRAPHIC - Here is Zapruder frame 313. Ejecta goes FORWARD and upward. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #21

IDK, ricochet plus not full front, but grassy knoll area? Bonobo Nov 2013 #24

Trajectory analysis says no Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #28

Thanks, my thoughts exactly. bobGandolf Nov 2013 #89

Quite conclusive to me in that photo, as horrible as it is. Hoyt Nov 2013 #29

I find the grassy knoll belief is rooted in a lack of physics understanding. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #37

That or physics is in on the conspiracy too. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #45

Yeah, because physics rules out advance knowledge. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #70

I'm obviously talking about the people who insist that explosives were used. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #71

No, you go further... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #72

You've obviously read too much into it. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #75

Well then, if you are open... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #88

Looks like a shot right through the back bottom of the seat, slightly towards the rear bumper Cronus Protagonist Nov 2013 #76

In the video I saw, it showed a piece of his head/skull flying back onto the trunk of polly7 Nov 2013 #9

You are full of it. No such authentic video exists Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #11

Nah ........ it wasn't in any dream and no, I'm not full of it. polly7 Nov 2013 #12

No, that happened Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #27

From Clint Hill's memoir FedUpWithIt All Nov 2013 #31

The back of Kennedy's head did not explode. (Warning: graphic images.) Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #32

Clint Hill, the agent on the trunk says she was reaching for a piece of his skull dflprincess Nov 2013 #15

Yes, the Zapruder film shows Mrs Kennedy climbing onto the back of the car of retrieve something struggle4progress Nov 2013 #23

JFK didn't have an entry and exit wound on his head. The bullet took a chunk off. Dash87 Nov 2013 #10

Was Kennedy not dead as soon as his head exploded? FLyellowdog Nov 2013 #13

to all intents and purposes, yes Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #20

Thanks. Amazing that he even had a pulse. nt FLyellowdog Nov 2013 #30

Isn't it more likely he was physically dead JimDandy Nov 2013 #77

Re: "intimidation" - from Curtis' 1964 testimony Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #17

I wasn't there, but if there was intimidation by Specter, Karmadillo Nov 2013 #22

Specter had to remind Curtis to talk about the hemotoma he'd mentioned Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #25

Again, if there was intimidation, it was likely off the record before Karmadillo Nov 2013 #33

It was a big nasty wound on the side of his head. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #34

The witnesses are pretty specific about Karmadillo Nov 2013 #35

Anyone locating the wound solely in the back of the head is wrong. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #38

All these people who were there are wrong and you're right. I guess Karmadillo Nov 2013 #41

That's what we have autopsies for - to establish under calm and measurable circumstances Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #42

Not sure if JFK's autopsy qualifies as Karmadillo Nov 2013 #62

Eyewitness accounts often disagree with each other and the autopsy results. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #63

Gosh. Witnesses in Bethesda support witnesses in Parkland on the blow out. Karmadillo Nov 2013 #67

And other witnesses disagree with them. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #68

Have the photos really been authenticated? Bolo Boffin says yes, but Karmadillo Nov 2013 #114

The HSCA said that, not little old me. I'm just passing it on. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #115

So now you've moved from they're authenticated to it stands to reason that despite Karmadillo Nov 2013 #116

No, the photos and X-rays have been authenticated. I've not moved from that at all. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #117

That's consistent w/Malcolm Kilduff's press conference .. MinM Nov 2013 #39

Dr. Robert McClelland in Trauma Room One Octafish Nov 2013 #64

"(McClelland's) recollections... have remained consistent for over thirty years." You are wrong. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #73

Obviously, the BFEE got him to change his story. N/t zappaman Nov 2013 #74

I don't understand why you make fun of the BFEE, zappaman. Octafish Nov 2013 #79

McClelland was there. He reported what he saw. Octafish Nov 2013 #78

No, he has not been consistent for fifty years. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #80

Poor Bolo Boffin. Don't get mad because McClelland reported what he saw. Octafish Nov 2013 #81

Who's mad? Not me. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #82

McClelland reported what he saw. Bugliosi wasn't there. Octafish Nov 2013 #84

McClelland was wrong. The autopsy pictures and photos prove this. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #85

Bolo Boffin, you couldn't be more wrong. Octafish Nov 2013 #86

The HSCA verified the autopsy photos and pictures were authentic. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #87

Bullshit. Octafish Nov 2013 #92

Sorry, Octafish. The HSCA did indeed verify the autopsy photos and X-rays. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #93

The record shows CIA caught red-handed altering evidence. Octafish Nov 2013 #95

Octafish. You're exaggerating. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #111

The flailing about on display is rather sad. zappaman Nov 2013 #112

You've reached the point of comic absurdity, Octa. stopbush Nov 2013 #109

Why oh why.... bobGandolf Nov 2013 #90

I assert it shouldn't even BE debated fifty years later. We have the technology that duffyduff Nov 2013 #103

Will someone just tell us the fucking truth. For once? Just once? Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #91

You will only get the truth long after anyone who was alive at the time is long dead. former9thward Nov 2013 #94

The truth was known within an HOUR of the assassination. The police arrested the killer. duffyduff Nov 2013 #100

That's what Allen Dulles and the CIA want you to believe. Octafish Nov 2013 #106

They arrested Oswald after he killed a cop. zappaman Nov 2013 #107

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #96

Hoover "hated" the Kennedy's with a passion. Lint Head Nov 2013 #102

Exactly. There would never have been documents classified or held back from public view if LHO was GoneFishin Nov 2013 #105

Yeah. Just like the way they held back info on Project Mogul stopbush Nov 2013 #110

Sorry. I don't know anything about that. n/t GoneFishin Nov 2013 #113

Kick. n/t area51 Nov 2013 #118