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HooptieWagon

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108. Chief Justice is appointed for life...

Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:15 AM

Nov 2013

So of course Hoover had no power over Warren whatsoever. And if Hoover did overplay his hand, I imagine the SCOTUS would have made his life very unpleasant.
Moreso, Hoover was a suboedinate of RFK as AG, and of course JFK, and later LBJ. His power waned substantially during the sixties, compared to what he wielded in the 30s and 40s. Hoover wasn't involved in the assassination, and most likely his obsfurcation of the WC was simply a CYA...he was trying to keep secret illegal spying etc that he'd been conducting for decades. Anything related to assassination conspiracy would have been revealed by RFK, and he told the WC there was nothing more to add. Same with CIA...RFK was very involved in MONGOOSE and other secret CIA operations. He likely would have discovered any CIA involvement in JFK's assassination.

Sometimes, usually even, things ARE as they
appear. Occams Razor.

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Why has the JFK anniversary meant a push to get total buy-in on the Warren Report? [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2013 OP

There's no evidence to conclude they were wrong. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #1

Lots of evidence of a cover up RobertEarl Nov 2013 #2

What evidence of a cover up? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #5

Good gawd RobertEarl Nov 2013 #6

OK, present your evidence. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #10

How can anyone be so blind? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #13

Actually I believe in people who go around killing people... Chan790 Nov 2013 #43

Hahaha RobertEarl Nov 2013 #56

Miracles happen, good sir. Chan790 Nov 2013 #64

I must apologize for that other poster trying to upset your carefully crafted denial bubble. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #16

People are gonna believe conspiracies. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #22

Common sense? Common sense would tell you that dipshit Oswald couldnt rhett o rick Nov 2013 #45

Well said! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #53

How difficult is it to stick a rifle out a window and hit a nearby object? cpwm17 Nov 2013 #57

I wont argue with you, you have your mind made up. But just want to say, that the massive rhett o rick Nov 2013 #95

Do you know what common sense is? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #80

I am glad you are comfortable with the "facts". nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #82

Yep. Oswald DID do it alone. Those are the facts. stopbush Nov 2013 #88

It's hard to discuss something with someone that right off states that they rhett o rick Nov 2013 #98

Funny, because I see the conspiracy theories as engaging in the same magical thinking stopbush Nov 2013 #99

But you are defining CT as "fact-bereft", when that isnt necessarily so. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #105

You're right, conspiracies do exist. Some to kill world leaders, in fact. stopbush Nov 2013 #111

Was Ted Kennedy gullible? jberryhill Nov 2013 #128

What? rhett o rick Nov 2013 #130

Ted Kennedy. Was he gullible? jberryhill Nov 2013 #137

You must have responded to the wrong post. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #139

"unbelievable marksmanship" Major Nikon Nov 2013 #42

Yes. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #126

The "unbelievable" comment was sarcasm Major Nikon Nov 2013 #135

Three of the Commission members didn't agree with the conclusions dflprincess Nov 2013 #4

The FBI had a special reason for their own cover-up. Archae Nov 2013 #8

Exactly. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #12

Do you really believe that RFK had any idea of EVERYTHING that Hoover....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #29

RFK did ask McCone if the CIA had killed his brother dflprincess Nov 2013 #35

And, less than a decade later, Hale Boggs was killed in a plane crash Ken Burch Nov 2013 #89

And that happened not long after he made it clear that, if he became Speaker of the House dflprincess Nov 2013 #106

Carl Albert was Speaker of the House when Boggs died. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #124

Boggs and Albert were on the outs dflprincess Nov 2013 #125

The point is that the investigation was reopened even with Boggs' death. nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #127

Obviously by your posting there was no evidence whistler162 Nov 2013 #18

Yes. My role was planned for me before I was born. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #23

I hear you, and don't forget, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #30

Their conclusion has NEVER been disproven, and there has NEVER been any evidence duffyduff Nov 2013 #55

Neither has most other conspiracy theorists conclusions. So what? Th1onein Nov 2013 #58

I disagree. stopbush Nov 2013 #145

I'm sorry, but the PTB decide what the narrative is; they decide what the "truth" is. Th1onein Nov 2013 #153

The day you can offer a scintilla of objective evidence to support your CT madness, I'll listen. stopbush Nov 2013 #155

Do you really have to go there? CT madess? Lips flapping in the wind? Th1onein Nov 2013 #158

LBJ plotted to kill JFK? JFK's limo driver turned around and shot him? stopbush Nov 2013 #159

I've said nothing about LBJ or anyone else. I'm saying that the "official" story is probably not Th1onein Nov 2013 #160

Most people think the official story isn't the truth, but they don't know that to be true. stopbush Nov 2013 #161

I'm glad you feel good about it, but most people don't. And when the files are still hidden, they Th1onein Nov 2013 #162

Aren't additional articles of evidence related to the event expected to be release upon the 50th? NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #3

Some were reclassified and sealed back up, Reagan made sure they got a 20 year extension. Rex Nov 2013 #113

Well, nothing suspicious about that, right? NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #116

??? The ARRA dates from 1992. Reagan had been out of office for 5 years stopbush Nov 2013 #147

Makes you wonder meanit Nov 2013 #7

They were supposed to release it on the 50th Anniversary Th1onein Nov 2013 #152

I have noticed a renewed push to accept the Warren report also. On TV and on-line. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #9

Attempting to convince the next generation? Holly_Hobby Nov 2013 #11

I might change my mind if the govt releases all the records without The Second Stone Nov 2013 #14

Yeah right... no matter what they "release" whistler162 Nov 2013 #19

And you wouldn't believe they are holding anything back, The Second Stone Nov 2013 #21

Acquiesce TomClash Nov 2013 #15

A certain segment of our society is fond of rewriting history Va Lefty Nov 2013 #17

I am. Anxiously. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #77

Notably, those who are pushing this so fervently woo me with science Nov 2013 #20

Wrong again. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #24

Ha ha ha ha ha. woo me with science Nov 2013 #25

Prove it. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #27

The threads are right here. woo me with science Nov 2013 #33

I'm a fan of Assange and Greenwald and Snowden cpwm17 Nov 2013 #37

Links? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #50

You made the allegation in post #20. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #68

That is not true. I believe that Kennedy was killed by Oswald alone. I am not a ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #114

Shall we do a comparison of those pushing JFK CT so fervently here at DU Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #119

Show me where "the powers that be" have spent a moment on JFK in the past 40 years... brooklynite Nov 2013 #26

The CIA and FBI are convienient boogymen. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #28

Surely all of the dirty shit they are involved in exonerates them somehow of being involved in this. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #39

Why pile on false charges? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #67

You realize just saying there's zero evidence does not make it true. Right? GoneFishin Nov 2013 #70

Then where is it? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #78

50 years worth of articles have been written. Do your own Googling. n/t GoneFishin Nov 2013 #85

Poppy Bush's defense of Gerald Ford and the Warren Commission at Ford's funeral was a bit odd. dflprincess Nov 2013 #31

Do you think Earl Warren was covering up? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #69

If he had been convinced it was "for the good of country", sure he would. dflprincess Nov 2013 #107

Chief Justice is appointed for life... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #108

That's right. CanSocDem Nov 2013 #72

Earl Warren and others were present... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #79

LOL, this shit is really cracking me up. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #32

You might be mistaken. gristy Nov 2013 #34

What "powers that be"? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #36

Sadly, your list of facts about the assassination reads like a blur stopbush Nov 2013 #63

Yep. Nobody in this country could arrange for all that "iron clad" evidence to be GoneFishin Nov 2013 #38

I dont trust my government. I am not a TeaBagger but I am very skeptical of rhett o rick Nov 2013 #40

You're not skeptical enough. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #41

cleaning up paper is easier than digital docs JVS Nov 2013 #48

You mean, like the Pentagon Papers? nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #60

Becasue they don't want the truth to get out zappaman Nov 2013 #44

I love how JFK's hair looks exactly as it did in 1963 in that picture, only whiter. stopbush Nov 2013 #112

My guess is that the media have blood on their hands too. ucrdem Nov 2013 #46

It truely makes me worry what they might be leading up to in the future kickysnana Nov 2013 #47

You could be right. For them it might not be about the past. It might be about the future. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #73

Good questions and I'm not ready to buy into the arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #49

Because its the 50 year anniversary of the event. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #51

A majority of the American people do not believe the Warren Commission report Samantha Nov 2013 #52

There is no conspiracy to force you to believe anything. However, duffyduff Nov 2013 #54

argumentum ad ignorantiam PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #59

Well, it's been 50 years now, and the assassination belongs to history. stopbush Nov 2013 #61

Next generation might open up the sealed files some don't want Congress Rex Nov 2013 #62

Is this what you'll be posting about the 50 yr anniversaries of the Challenger disaster and 9/11? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #65

They need to reinforce the spin... MinM Nov 2013 #66

Because the National Security State is no longer a dirty little secret reddread Nov 2013 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #74

One word, Poppy madokie Nov 2013 #75

The WCR is a pathetic work of fiction, with no usable index, no thorough witness-briefings, and on WinkyDink Nov 2013 #76

Exactly! JohnyCanuck Nov 2013 #81

the endless conspiricy theories have convinced me to accept the Warren Commission also mulsh Nov 2013 #83

What conclusions did they draw from the bullet fragments removed from his brain? n/t GoneFishin Nov 2013 #86

Good Practices in Propaganda Octafish Nov 2013 #84

He wouldn't want that PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #87

Serious response to this question: Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #90

Here's a good note about the stretcher bullet stopbush Nov 2013 #121

The conspirators worked in mysterious ways nt cpwm17 Nov 2013 #129

All excellent points. n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #133

Where's your evidence that vague and nameless PTB are fixated on getting folk to buy the WCR? struggle4progress Nov 2013 #91

Have you ever considered the possibility Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #92

do you guys do Handel's Messiah? reddread Nov 2013 #93

Have you a point you'd like to make? n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #96

The MSM is convinced (and maybe they're correct for once) that this is their last chance Boomerproud Nov 2013 #94

I always found it funny how much information they had on the lone killer so fast. texanwitch Nov 2013 #97

The route could never have gone straight down the road. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #100

I remember reading that the Secret Service had a thing about turns. texanwitch Nov 2013 #101

That's fine and true, but going straight down Main, they couldn't get to the Trade Mart. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #103

The President's safety was more important then a direct route to the Trade Mart. texanwitch Nov 2013 #104

For someone who isn't even aware of the layout of Dealey Plaza stopbush Nov 2013 #148

I will never understand the thinking about thinking one lone nut killed the President. texanwitch Nov 2013 #150

"and look what happened to Oswald's killer." stopbush Nov 2013 #154

yeah I've been wondering that also gopiscrap Nov 2013 #102

I don't know, but I think somebody is afraid further evidence may be discovered. lonestarnot Nov 2013 #109

Full transparency. Rex Nov 2013 #115

Good. I'd like to know before I die. I don't know why they always leave out the video of SS being lonestarnot Nov 2013 #117

If it was to keep us from going into WWIII with the USSR Rex Nov 2013 #118

What does it matter if the SS was "waved off the car" at Love Field. stopbush Nov 2013 #120

What a bunch of know-it-all-blow-hard insulting pile we have here. The man that was waved off lonestarnot Nov 2013 #122

If that's the best you can do, why even bother? stopbush Nov 2013 #123

No. You ignore details. lonestarnot Nov 2013 #141

I ignore fictions. You're welcome to them, stopbush Nov 2013 #142

And yet... Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #132

So another guy is sitting down, not the guy waved off. lonestarnot Nov 2013 #140

Was that man there as the limo left Love Field? Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #149

Not the plan of the day. Your attempt at minimizing is not working. lonestarnot Nov 2013 #163

Why don't you go hug the WC since that is all you believe in. Rex Nov 2013 #143

Right. Then explain to all of us how those SAs ended up on JFK's limo stopbush Nov 2013 #146

That's precisely why I've never stopped being interested... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #110

It's because of people like you, and me, and everyone that was alive at the time. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #131

The fact that Oswald was murdered Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #134

My observation is pretty much the opposite Major Nikon Nov 2013 #136

"We know what we saw." jberryhill Nov 2013 #138

Because the takeover isn't quite complete. polichick Nov 2013 #144

I think this has something to do with it: Th1onein Nov 2013 #151

K&R The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #156

Just like the massive effort scientists put into convincing people about.... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #157

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