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In reply to the discussion: Cold Case: JFK – NOVA program now online [View all]solarhydrocan
(551 posts)11. It would be silly to think the CIA could have had a part in this...
Everyone knows they only do wet work in other countries
The United States has been involved in and assisted in the overthrow of foreign governments (more recently termed "regime change"
without the overt use of U.S. military force. Often, such operations are tasked to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
Regime change has been attempted through direct involvement of U.S. operatives, the funding and training of insurgency groups within these countries, anti-regime propaganda campaigns, coups d'état, and other activities usually conducted as operations by the CIA. The U.S. has also accomplished regime change by direct military action, such as following the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1989 and the U.S.-led military invasion of Iraq in 2003.
2 During the Cold War
2.1 Communist states 194489
2.2 Syria 1949
2.3 Iran 1953
2.4 Guatemala 1954
2.5 Tibet 195570s
2.6 Indonesia 1958
2.7 Cuba 1959
2.8 Democratic Republic of the Congo 196065
2.9 Iraq 196063
2.10 Dominican Republic 1961
2.11 South Vietnam 1963
2.12 Brazil 1964
2.13 Ghana 1966
2.14 Chile 197073
2.15 Argentina 1976
2.16 Afghanistan 197989
2.17 Turkey 1980
2.18 Poland 198081
2.19 Nicaragua 198190
--2.19.1 Destablization through CIA Assets
--2.19.2 Arming the Contras
2.20 Cambodia 198095
2.21 Angola 1980s
2.22 Philippines 1986
3 Since the end of the Cold War
3.1 Iraq 199296
3.2 Afghanistan 2001
3.3 Venezuela 2002
3.4 Iraq 200203
3.5 Haiti 2004
3.6 Gaza Strip 2006present
3.7 Somalia 200607
3.8 Iran 2005present
3.9 Libya 2011
3.10 Syria 2012present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_U.S._regime_change_actions
Regime change has been attempted through direct involvement of U.S. operatives, the funding and training of insurgency groups within these countries, anti-regime propaganda campaigns, coups d'état, and other activities usually conducted as operations by the CIA. The U.S. has also accomplished regime change by direct military action, such as following the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1989 and the U.S.-led military invasion of Iraq in 2003.
2 During the Cold War
2.1 Communist states 194489
2.2 Syria 1949
2.3 Iran 1953
2.4 Guatemala 1954
2.5 Tibet 195570s
2.6 Indonesia 1958
2.7 Cuba 1959
2.8 Democratic Republic of the Congo 196065
2.9 Iraq 196063
2.10 Dominican Republic 1961
2.11 South Vietnam 1963
2.12 Brazil 1964
2.13 Ghana 1966
2.14 Chile 197073
2.15 Argentina 1976
2.16 Afghanistan 197989
2.17 Turkey 1980
2.18 Poland 198081
2.19 Nicaragua 198190
--2.19.1 Destablization through CIA Assets
--2.19.2 Arming the Contras
2.20 Cambodia 198095
2.21 Angola 1980s
2.22 Philippines 1986
3 Since the end of the Cold War
3.1 Iraq 199296
3.2 Afghanistan 2001
3.3 Venezuela 2002
3.4 Iraq 200203
3.5 Haiti 2004
3.6 Gaza Strip 2006present
3.7 Somalia 200607
3.8 Iran 2005present
3.9 Libya 2011
3.10 Syria 2012present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_U.S._regime_change_actions
Trained killers wouldn't even think of operating on US soil.
And none of this will ever come back around.
Because the US is Exceptional.
Those who question the right of the US to treat the rest of the world like a junkyard are Un American.
Operation 40 was a Central Intelligence Agency-sponsored undercover operation in the early 1960s, which was active in the United States and the Caribbean (including Cuba), Central America, and Mexico.
It was approved by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in March 1960, after the January 1959 Cuban Revolution, and was presided over by Vice-president Richard Nixon.
The group included Frank Sturgis (who would later become one of the Watergate burglars); Felix Rodriguez (a CIA officer who later was involved in the capture and summary execution of Che Guevara); Luis Posada Carriles (held in the US in 2010 on charges of illegal immigration, he is demanded by Venezuela for his key role in the execution of the 1976 Cubana Flight 455 bombing); Orlando Bosch (founder of the counterrevolutionary Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations, that organized the 1976 murder of Chilean former minister Orlando Letelier); Rafael 'Chi Chi' Quintero; Virgilio Paz Romero; Pedro Luis Diaz Lanz; Bernard Barker; Porter Goss; and Barry Seal. Members took part in the April 1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion directed against the government of Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.

Operation 40 had 86 employees in 1961, of which 37 were trained as case officers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_40
It was approved by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in March 1960, after the January 1959 Cuban Revolution, and was presided over by Vice-president Richard Nixon.
The group included Frank Sturgis (who would later become one of the Watergate burglars); Felix Rodriguez (a CIA officer who later was involved in the capture and summary execution of Che Guevara); Luis Posada Carriles (held in the US in 2010 on charges of illegal immigration, he is demanded by Venezuela for his key role in the execution of the 1976 Cubana Flight 455 bombing); Orlando Bosch (founder of the counterrevolutionary Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations, that organized the 1976 murder of Chilean former minister Orlando Letelier); Rafael 'Chi Chi' Quintero; Virgilio Paz Romero; Pedro Luis Diaz Lanz; Bernard Barker; Porter Goss; and Barry Seal. Members took part in the April 1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion directed against the government of Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.

Operation 40 had 86 employees in 1961, of which 37 were trained as case officers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_40
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Great, now the folks that made this program are part of your great big conspiracy theory.
cpwm17
Nov 2013
#7
They discussed the condition of the bullet and explained everything including the exact way it
kestrel91316
Nov 2013
#82
We much have watched different shows because they showed all the bullet tests on the show I watched.
kestrel91316
Nov 2013
#83
NOVA showed that the bullet was able to penetrate nearly three feet of wood block
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#79
I saw it and was pretty satified that it was Oswald alone. Before watching it I thought it might
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#2
It's not a "magic bullet" anyway. It is easy to see the trajectory of the bullet
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#55
The silliness is not mine. Do you think the necktie caused the bullet to spin? nt
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#167
If you really want to know, it had to do with the release of pressure through the exit wound.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#213
You really should go and watch the piece. This was not a regular bullet. It was an Italian one that
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#187
The suspicion of multiple shooters does not rest on the magic bullet controversy nt
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#190
A show recommended by irrational people is likely to be an irrational show. nt
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#228
That Oswald may have been the only sharpshooter on that day does not mean that he "acted alone."
JDPriestly
Nov 2013
#112
Easier than that: Oswald was felt he was a loser and had delusions he wanted to be remembered
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#56
It always amuses me when people talk through their hats, as you are doing now.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#114
Great history lesson, but that does not prove anyone other than LHO fired the shots.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#17
Expecting proof before there's been a proper investigation is unreasonable. nt
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#63
Got a link? Something academic or peer reviewed? I always hear CTers talk about the secret files.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#74
Yes, and scientists led the HSCA to the conclusion of conspiracy in the death of President Kennedy.
avaistheone1
Nov 2013
#13
That evidence has been more recently been rebuked based on science too.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#19
I am sure you will provide some links to those scientists who disagree with that evidence.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#25
This is the original study that Sabato himself bought and paid for - for his own book.
avaistheone1
Nov 2013
#30
I never mentioned if the HSCA did or didn't agree with the WCR about the single bullet.
meanit
Nov 2013
#75
I think we're supposed to forget that ever happened, like the Saudi pages of the Joint Congressional
yurbud
Nov 2013
#216
None of those objects was anything like a human skull traveling a 11-12 mph away from the shooter.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#35
313 is blurred, the SecSrvc to the left rear of the car were splattered and they
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#57
Frame 313 is smeared. You can see the difference between 312 and 313. Check the highlights. nt
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#71
The smear of the highlights in 313 is not present in the same highlights in 312.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#97
Not cynicism--rigor. I happen to know how easy it would be to alter the images.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#105
Yes, there was a single bullet that caused seven wounds. No magic, only physics.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#186
It means nothing that the bullet was "badly misshapen" in the Australian test you mention.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#45
No, they covered very nicely how the head shot made his head move BACK like it did.
kestrel91316
Nov 2013
#80
What's really amazing is that the findings of the WCR stand up to advances in science,
stopbush
Nov 2013
#95
The names of US agents and informants in places like Cuba, for one thing.
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#119
Your blatant denial of the forensic evidence suggests you have a conspiracy theory.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#122
The names of US agents and informants in Cuba, Russia, et cetera are sensitive, clearly
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#131
Those names were surely redacted before the Commission even got the document.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#134
Thompson has no credentials or expertise in forensics or photo analysis.
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#248
So, when I point out your personal attack you consider that a personal attack.
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#169
Your persistent inability to distinguish between the Zapruder film itself and a Belgian
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#179
Why aren't we talking about your inauthenticated anonymous web author anymore?
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#241
No, we're talking about Itek because it reaches the exact same conclusions.
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#242
In the same post where I said I'm not gonna play your stupid games in GD
William Seger
Nov 2013
#226
A self-referential re-iterative loop is where you showed why Thompson was wrong?
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#230
Nova is a great show. Please point out how it changed with the Koch sponsorship. n-t
Logical
Nov 2013
#214
that would take too long to answer. Try this: In principle are you in favor of just one sponsor
librechik
Nov 2013
#236