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In reply to the discussion: ‘Rape porn’ possession to be punished by three years in jail, David Cameron to announce [View all]JTFrog
(14,274 posts)698. And I alerted on Juror #2.
At Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:21 AM you sent an alert on the following post:
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‘Rape porn’ possession to be punished by three years in jail, David Cameron to announce [View all]
The Straight Story
Nov 2013
OP
I wonder if this really solves the core problem or just band-aids it ... what drives
RKP5637
Nov 2013
#1
Did I say rape pornography should be illegal? No. Try responding to what I actually wrote next time.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#286
No, the absurdity is inherent in the conflation of rape pornography, which justifies sexual violence
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#298
That was my thought. What about movies that depict murder? Is it a crime to depict it in a movie?
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#210
You know I am talking about Hollywood movies with actors, not actual murders
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#489
And You know we're not talking about ' Freedom of Speech ' or censorship of Art,
orpupilofnature57
Nov 2013
#606
Perhaps I missed it, but I did not see in the article anything to distinguish a BBC
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#649
I could never make it through that movie, but I don't think it should be banned just because I found
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#563
Priceless, you can't even comprehend there are two separate elements we are talking about...
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#161
I leave the "knack of posting a lot while saying nothing" to you. Youve said nothing as usual that
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#175
So this must be simulated too I guess: The headlines are shouting RAPE IN DECLINE
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#149
Sounds like your Modus Operandi actually. Besides what does it matter, you won remember?
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#227
Correction, nothing much to say to you. I mean seriously you even didnt get the initial argument
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#244
Wow, you've made an internet poster give up on attempting to educate you in the slightest out of
EOTE
Nov 2013
#729
Snicker, No the post is there. again if you resort to simply saying untruths thats your issue
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#223
Y'know, the civil and normal reaction would have been to just answer someone's question...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#230
What cultural and demographic influences do you credit for the 80% drop in rape victimization?
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2013
#509
I read that 1 in 5 women are raped in the country. That is still a very high number.
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#510
I've got a question for you. Do you think clips of actual rapes should be banned?
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#181
So a movie like "Last House of the Left" where you have rape scenes and such, gets defined by you
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#184
I'm not interested in anything but hearing an answer to the very self-same question you present
Katashi_itto
Nov 2013
#194
Well, seeing yr refusing to say whether you want real rape clips banned or not...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#196
What is it with people who ignore questions and come up with bizarre questions? n/t
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#201
It was very simple. Only one person refuses to say that they think real rape should be banned...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#211
Just because some law somewhere isn't currently being abused, that doesn't extrapolate to much of
EOTE
Nov 2013
#232
Not being an American, I'm not an absolutist when it comes to censorship...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#240
This is about possession of material that it is already illegal to publish
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#252
If I may step in here..I think the term might be "Simulated assault Scene" with emphasis on the word
BlueJazz
Nov 2013
#169
you are not jacking off to horror films create an euphoric reaction thru the chemicals in your brain
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#627
bullshit. horror films are not created with the absolute intent to get a person off, firstly.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#664
in any fatnasy, the people have total control of that fantasy. it is not rape. it is wrong to
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#667
what is put on screen is not the same as what we fantasize about. that would be the point.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#684
i think when discussing stuff like this its important to draw distinct lines
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#693
Ridiculous. There must be people here who remember the "Sopranos" episode where Melfi got raped.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#7
it does say something with how much graphic rape we have in our shows to entertain us, right? nt
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#8
entertain is exactly the word. actual girls, raped and put on the net to entertain the boys. ya...
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#17
hey there, i would say that like violence on tv etc, it shows that we all have a dark side
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#16
right. that would be why we have so much of the real thing put on the net for entertainment. but,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#18
i agree with the issue over the real thing, thats when prosecution should be hard
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#19
wrong. it feeds the appetite. it sexualizes and exploits. they are at the point of sexualizing
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#21
the fetish side of it is already out there, with every other fetish from the wierd to the sick
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#23
thats the problem with stuff like this, its hard to differentiate sometimes
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#40
I get your point, and haven't you heard of men get turned on by being tied up, demeaned
whathehell
Nov 2013
#257
Not for for you, perhaps, but for many others, having sex is different than 'going to the movies"
whathehell
Nov 2013
#297
no problem, no point arguing if we wont change each others minds, civility wins
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#323
not really, it was not that long ago people were accusing pedo priests etc of being a gay problem
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#272
"The mere tendency of speech to encourage unlawful acts is not a sufficient reason for banning it.."
davidn3600
Nov 2013
#77
Case in point. The massive increase in rapes since the release of the film "Deliverance".
EOTE
Nov 2013
#202
Here's a clue: The Sopranos, Clockwork Orange, Deliverance, I Spit on Your Grave aren't
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#69
Only in America would people think Game of Thrones and Clockwork Orange is porn...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#146
Of course, because the denizens of Oz are so BRILLIANT as to never make that mistake, right?
whathehell
Nov 2013
#314
I believe I used the word "had" and I didn't say ALL your posts are bigoted, lol
whathehell
Nov 2013
#410
'Is there ANY thread in which you can't find some small excuse to vent your anti-American Bigotry?'
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#457
No understanding of nuance (them, not you). Seems evidence of a childlike psychology.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#320
Watch out. You'll be labelled an anti-American bigot as well if yr not careful n/t
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#341
It's okay, I am an American. So I have a measure of immunity, I suppose.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#343
Bullshit...Speak to her of Australians "in general"..She doesn't even KNOW any Americans,
whathehell
Nov 2013
#346
Just observations of my own countrymen/women. Having lived my whole life in this country.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#353
Having lived your whole life in this country, your ability to "compare and contrast"
whathehell
Nov 2013
#386
Okay, seeing you keep on saying yr leaving and don't, I'll pull the plug now...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2013
#473
Sorry, but that's just not true...I even gave you "tips" on where to go when you were
whathehell
Nov 2013
#441
Oh My Gawd -- Are you just finding out that this board is public to all its members?
whathehell
Nov 2013
#471
What is it with this "yr"?...You're not on Twitter, so perhaps you could spell it out in full, lol?
whathehell
Nov 2013
#629
no, differentiating between real rape and simulated rape is your first step, much like real murder
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#621
was that meant to be porn ? didn't watch the show but i'm guessing it was shown as rape
JI7
Nov 2013
#151
there are ways of telling, thats why the cops get sent video if sometjing is not right
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#385
no such thing as to much info if you want to make informed decisions on something
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#443
oh your not trust me, this is just simple info on the new faces of porn that are out there
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#449
I don't know. 15? 20? I'm sure you know or else you wouldn't have asked, so tell me.
EOTE
Nov 2013
#671
wow. the total dismissal and irrelevance sex trafficking has on you. abusing women. meh? so?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#680
Says the one accusing others of mob mentality and being a jerk and an embarrassment.
EOTE
Nov 2013
#703
So you are saying British law makes no distinction between art and pornography?
BainsBane
Nov 2013
#352
Disturbing in this thread how many at once thinks about fictional images of rape
KitSileya
Nov 2013
#11
there is a big difference between actual rape videos and pics and there being a victim
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#14
That's because the proposed law applies to fictional images of rape as well as real ones.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#24
We can see you don't understand it, because you brought up The Sopranos
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#73
I was going by the OP, which said "images of rape, whether simulated or not".
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#93
it says "It is against the law to publish images of rape but a legal loophole ...
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#102
Yes. "Many on this thread are more worried about their titillation than the fabric of our culture"
whathehell
Nov 2013
#726
If it's simulated and between two consenting adults, why should it matter?
Vashta Nerada
Nov 2013
#20
on film? how do you know? how do you know it is simulated and not actual rape?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#581
ya. one was brought onto du from fb. from teh minute she was picked up off the street to taken out
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#585
they are using kidnapped women and children to make the rape porn. they can easily put the little
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#589
did i say ALL... ok. so you have a section of rape porn you are pretty sure, not positive, but
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#626
When you can't tell "simulated" sexual violence from the real thing, you get laws
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#587
It can desensitize some people to violence against women. Edited to include it not I.
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#561
probuably safest thing is to record the whole thing with consent taped at the start and parameters
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#25
no problem, but its both male and female who have the fetish and its not really about the rape
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#28
and yet you find the time to worry about what consenting adults do in their sex lifes
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#615
And the ability of the KKK to hold marches. And the ability of people to use the "f" word in public.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#54
Do you want to make a list of what would be banned under such a stupid law in America?
davidn3600
Nov 2013
#55
Yes Jefferson, whose relationship with Sally Hemmings was totally 100% consensual...
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2013
#533
You're talking about stuff that, even if it doesn't depict real sexual assault, is indistinguishable
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#337
In that case, you're opposed to the First Amendment to the Constitution, and I'm opposed to you.
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2013
#630
Quite the conceited argument you make, proposing that anyone who disagrees
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#669
It is already against the law to publish images of rape porn, so The Accused is unaffected
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#80
This law (according to the OP) only applies to material that's already illegal.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#328
There is a difference between a consensual fantasy and real sexual assault.
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#96
Like I said, the problem is that the consensual stuff will be labeled as "rape porn"...
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#108
wtf are you on about now, dont you get it, people as part of their sex life
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#134
Yes, and women's right to live as EQUALS outweighs misogynists' "right" to their sick erections. n/t
whathehell
Nov 2013
#736
"there is correlation between watching that stuff and actual rape" You forgot a word.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2013
#773
Force fantasies are usually identified among the top 3 WOMENS sexual fantasies.
Xithras
Nov 2013
#47
its actually very common, power and sex are closely linked in many fetishes of both sexes.
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#72
You're a man, but you speak only of women & with such "authority"..How about discussing MEN & their
whathehell
Nov 2013
#331
Honey, I AM a woman...So maybe..Gee, just MAYBE I know something about women you and other men don't
whathehell
Nov 2013
#379
Nah, not the point, but again, why don't you want to talk about YOUR fantasies or that of other men?
whathehell
Nov 2013
#405
How about YOU read my other POSTS on this thread, so YOU know what you are TALKING ABOUT
whathehell
Nov 2013
#402
Fantasies may be somewhat gender neutral in terms of the relative power dynamics
BainsBane
Nov 2013
#505
if such fantasies didn't exist, 50 shades of grey wouldn't be so popular with women.
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#555
again... in fantasy there is total control over every that happens from appearance, to place, to
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#560
No one said they don't "exist"...Fifty shades of grey is popular with some women, hardly all,
whathehell
Nov 2013
#728
no. 62% of women create a scenario of an appearance of but no. they fantasize about the paticipants
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#536
when women fantasize about rape, they have control on all aspect of that rape. the man,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#576
What's the difference between something being eroticised and someone having a fetish for something?
sibelian
Nov 2013
#53
We need safe outlets for people to explore their sexuality in a consensual and safe way.
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#58
Yeah. I was involved in the Scottish BDSM community when I was younger, consent is CRUCIAL to them.
sibelian
Nov 2013
#137
Exactly - we're arguing in this threat over what is the definition of "rape porn".
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#153
Well, as I understood it, imagery of anything ACTUALLY non-consensual isn't "rape porn" it's SNUFF.
sibelian
Nov 2013
#334
thats the crux, anything consenting adults do should be none of anyones business
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#83
When you are in a trusting relationship you can feel safe to explore sexual fantasies.
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#570
I see someone upthread has already addressed the child issue. Children cannot give consent so stop
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#723
when you are in a trusting relationship pretending to rape and be raped, you are not raping and
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#574
thanks, is it okay for them to video it as well and post it so others can see.
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#48
I suppose if it's clearly depicted as consensual - and no one is actually hurt - then it's okay.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#359
i think that it would be better to have the contract in writing or on tape
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#364
Disclaimers at the start of the video, etc. Just to clearly separate it from the "real thing."
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#367
could have one of those no animals where hurt in the making things and some org certify it
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#369
I agree. Which is why I think this law is problematic even if I sympathize with some of its goals.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#348
I don't think this is meant to "regulate fiction" though. It has to do with either *real* depictions
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#361
But what I'm talking about here is recordings of *actual crimes*. *Not* anything fictitious.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#499
Personally, I'd only be interested in prosecuting people who produce actual videos of criminal acts
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#526
the scottish law is not to bad, only issues i have is the could cause severe injury part
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#79
Cartoon tentacle porn won't be affected by this, I'm pretty sure... Though I could be wrong...
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#363
I'm actually not kidding when I say that I've studiously avoided hentai up till now.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#746
Oh yeah, "Fritz"! I've seen bits and pieces of it, been meaning to watch the whole thing.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#749
well the comment seemed to imply on women were simulated raped, I was pointing out
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#171
gah i hate typing on the cellphone it always messes up words or autocorrects
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#253
All clearly fictional portrayals (as in feature films) are "OK" I'm pretty sure.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#365
as i said earlier real rape tapes should be hammered but consenting adults should be able to record
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#254
I see Camerwrong has fixed everything else in the UK and has to time to deal with this stuff now....
truebrit71
Nov 2013
#157
That's why I'm skeptical of this law, even though I agree with some of its objectives... n/t
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#366
What the nasty apologists in this thread don't understand is, everything in a movie is ALWAYS real.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#228
if they are paying then they are doing it wrong, i could link you to many free sites rigjt now
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#255
lol, youbreally think that ibwant you to watch something that you are talking as an expert on
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#265
So you are of the opinion that women are not capable of consenting to have sex in front of a camera,
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#600
Pictures of consenting adults doing things the government doesn't like = crime
cthulu2016
Nov 2013
#256
There are mainstream, popular porn stars who participate in rape pornography.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#270
And that is certainly a worthy discussion. But I think what should be the main discussion here...
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#307
I'm sorry but the equation of two consenting adults does not mean rape porn is okay.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#282
i dont know were this idea that its against women, women are big into this as well
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#295
I really, seriously don't need a lecture on human sexuality from you. Just an FYI.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#302
I have not once in this entire thread stated that rape pornography should be illegal.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#303
I would say for sure that we need more protections for workers in general, not just sex workers...
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#572
And no one in their right mind is trying to make all pornography illegal.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#375
Yeah, that's part of the problem right there. And I acknowlege that this is a complex, frustrating
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#384
"no one in their right mind is trying to make all pornography illegal"
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#605
is not all porn garbage to people not into it, theres shitloads of stuff out there that few watch
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#275
its one of those if it floats your boat question, we all have kinks and fetishes that seem strange t
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#283
You are completely disregarding the substantive consequence of prolific sexual violence.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#290
and like it or not its part of human nature, now we can fight the violence
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#306
I'm not an essentialist so if you are arguing that rape is implicitly within the human mind...
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#309
think if you read again, i was saying that submission domination etc are part of us all
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#311
Domination and submission is part of us all because we justify their existence.
Gravitycollapse
Nov 2013
#312
i respect your opinion but disagree, i am happy with domination and submission and
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#316
think of it this way, are there aspects of your own sexuality that some people dont get
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#429
If a person has a fetish for watching rape then they need to get a new fetish.
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#430
going to try to take this one apart, for some its the rape aspect that titillates, some are sick
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#433
And survivors of mass shootings probably hate to see gun violence in movies.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#407
Yes this is very damaging to people because some but not all will become desensitized by this.
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#523
When consenting adults decide to make a movie of themselves doing something, and nobody gets hurt,
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#281
I agree with this. Which is why they need to clearly differentiate what they're doing
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#381
Also important to distinguish between real "snuff" films and simulated violence (nt)
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#383
Of course. No argument from me. But no sane person watches a violent movie and think it's real.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#389
This is why, as I said, people need to very clearly differentiate their simulations
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#392
Any Killer ? We shouldn't ban kiddie porn ? or only if they kill the child ?
orpupilofnature57
Nov 2013
#455
Once in prison, how about on the way to the chair . And " Media influence "
orpupilofnature57
Nov 2013
#458
I don't disagree with the spirit of the law, even if I'm dubious on the 3-year sentence for
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#396
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" or "law of unintended consequences" or something.
Captain Stern
Nov 2013
#422
In general I agree. But what happens when you can't tell the "real thing" from the fake?
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#480
You have a point. And that's why I have my reservations about the extension of the law.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#490
you would rather see guilty folks watching a real rape in progress get away... well, bully for you.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#495
i do not want to see women and our children brutally raped for the entertainment of men. for
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#647
I also don't want see our women and children brutally raped for the entertainment of men.
Captain Stern
Nov 2013
#654
whose responsibility is it? the victim throwing a clue out during her rape so a buyer knows? or
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#655
since there is a huge market of trafficked women and children forced, or girls blackmailed to do
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#652
No, the law only makes illegal possession of porn that is illegal to produce
BainsBane
Nov 2013
#467
I wish people would stop freaking out and realize what this law actually entails.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#484
Very true. I suppose that's something of a built-in feature, when it comes to Internet
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#491
how do you know the difference between the "simulated" rape and actual rape how do you know you
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#637
huge sex slave trafficking with the sole purpose of producing rape films and presented to the public
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#658
OP is about the UK. It quickly devolved into a hypothetical discussion about the US.
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2013
#643
in a womans rape fantasy, it is her fantasy to control. everything about the rape is her control
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#527
in the article it is what is in the womans head. ALL is in her control with her "rape" fantasy that
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#553
that is not what rape, nor supposed simulated rape created is. that would be the issue.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#635
the escalation of sex trafficking, kidnapping women and children, forcing rape on them,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#656
so, you feel the buyer is responisble for the porn he consumes that a victim is not being forced
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#661
You keep bringing up this stuff about chemical reactions. Do you have a scientific source or study
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#738
woman has NO control in RAPE. fantasy of rape, she has control of ALL elements of rape. it is not
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#530
Consensual "forcible" sex might be a better way to put it. The quotation marks are important.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#575
how forcible is it when both parties agree this is what they are playing at? she can pretend to be
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#579
so, i am right. pretend. role play. the person trusts each other. big whoop. that is not rape.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#592
if you are defending the right to the rape porn, then ya, you are defending real rape. a vast amount
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#688
i do not give a fuck about camerons law. i an addressing the men that validate, normalize, excuse,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#695
what is wrong is equating all this to actual rape. fantasy is nothing about rape. nt
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#593
How odd that you keep leaving out the important part of the language. Looks intentionally deceptive.
Bonobo
Nov 2013
#608
consentual forcible sex done exactly how the person wants it done and with who.... how forcible is
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#565
my brother dated a girl once who told him she wanted to play out a rape fantasy with him.
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#559
she chooses her rapist? and how would that be rape. they could play all they want, but she
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#568
how do you know the girls/women are willing? free of responsibility if you do not know?
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#632
You (intentionally) left out the significant part of that. I'll fix it for you.
Bonobo
Nov 2013
#595
I think people are more afraid of the slippery slope and how such a law would apply in America
davidn3600
Nov 2013
#598
If a simulated depiction of a criminal act is indistinguishable from the "real thing"
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#604
How about the Government bans anything that is "extremely offensive to the average person"?
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#618
How about keeping actual murder and rape illegal, but fictional murder and rape legal?
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#644
You realize at the current state, this thread has 676 posts and you account for 118 of them?
snooper2
Nov 2013
#678
Someone in this thread keeps asserting that its -impossible- for a woman to consent
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#741
Zesty, perhaps, being an adjective better reserved for salad dressing
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#752
That PM wasn't directed at you, so I fail to see why I need to discuss it with you.
BainsBane
Nov 2013
#789
Kind of ironic since HOF regularly calls the owners of the site misogynists. nt
Bonobo
Nov 2013
#800
You lost any chance to get my time, consideration & energy when you sent me the "**** ***" PM.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#782
Lots of DUers have a great deal of trust that prosecutors will be able to determine
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#646
As you know very well, prosecutors do not convict people in the UK
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#735
You only say that because you're worried the UK is going to take away your rubber walrus porn
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#771
What I find really impressive is there is only one hidden post in this thread. n/t
Kurska
Nov 2013
#803
wonder how many alerts there have been though. but its amazing only one hide though
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#812
The funniest thing is people who think this will do literally anything besides send people to prison
Kurska
Nov 2013
#805
Actually, this would make if more effective than the original law
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#811