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StarrGazerr

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50. Ever heard of integrity?

Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:08 PM

Nov 2013

It has nothing to do with wanting to get someone fired, and realistically MSNBC wouldn't have fired him anyway since the reason for it - blatant conservative censorship - would have been so transparently obvious. At worst he might have gotten suspended for a week or so, and keeping a defiant Bashir on the air would actually have increased their ratings with all the Righties tuning in to curse at him. No disrespect, but you seem to be suggesting that journalistic integrity and the First Amendment should take a back seat to corporate profit considerations. Believe me, I am much angrier at MSNBC management than at Bashir, but he could easily have gotten away with the classic Republican "non apology apology" - "I made some comments in response to Sarah Palin comparing government debt to slavery on Friday, and if anyone was offended by my choice of words, I apologize." The way Bashir groveled left a clear impression that he was apologizing for the content of his statement rather than for his choice of words, and there was nothing in the content of what he said that deserved an apology.

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Damnit Bashir, you shouldn't have apologized [View all] gopiscrap Nov 2013 OP

I agree with you, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #1

Agreed. Bill Lermer Nov 2013 #7

What was that about? n/t doc03 Nov 2013 #2

See article on link below Tx4obama Nov 2013 #4

He obliquely told her to eat shit. Iggo Nov 2013 #62

What did he say Nite Owl Nov 2013 #3

See article on link below Tx4obama Nov 2013 #5

Step away from the keyboard Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6

.. Cha Nov 2013 #31

Glad to see you back! I had noticed your absence....but I thought Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #37

Yeah, I took a vacay from Cha Nov 2013 #38

It was a bit beyond the pale. BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #8

He really did hit below the belt, my only concern is the new line that is now created Heather MC Nov 2013 #12

All who love Martin can agree that he was RIGHT w/o condemning him for what might've been IrishAyes Nov 2013 #9

Sounds reasonable, elleng Nov 2013 #29

Well, he pitched a righteous rant even if his language did get away from him a bit. I can't whack IrishAyes Nov 2013 #47

I agree, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2013 #10

Dead balls on. Think he actually was too easy on that POS. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #139

One has class the other is an ass rufus dog Nov 2013 #11

Palin doesn't deserve an apology from anyone for anything they say about he n/t doc03 Nov 2013 #13

AGREED!!! AZ Mike Nov 2013 #14

You'd be happy to be "the Darby"? You're sure about that? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #16

what does that mean, the darby? Skip Intro Nov 2013 #21

It's "Darby's Dose", right? AZ Mike Nov 2013 #24

If you read, Darby was "catched eating cane..." cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #40

Well, dammit. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #42

Sick stuff. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #20

Jury votes 3-3 to keep "someone should shit in her mouth." Skip Intro Nov 2013 #22

Wow... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #23

I want to be sure I have this straight: Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #45

you should have been juried for calling her a whore. thanks for making this a hostile bettyellen Nov 2013 #53

Thank you GladRagDahl Nov 2013 #55

progressive men shouldn't need to be told this. calling her a whore and offering to shit in her bettyellen Nov 2013 #57

Agreed. The "whore" reference alone should have resulted in a hide, but the desire ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #58

I alerted on the jury results. It deserves a second look. bettyellen Nov 2013 #59

I was the original alerter. I may have alerted five times in all my DU years. That was grotesque. nolabear Nov 2013 #65

I hope you alerted on the jury results. this is likely something Skinner would want to know about. bettyellen Nov 2013 #67

Wow, you can do that? Shows how little I go there. nolabear Nov 2013 #71

Yep, that is the only way to "kick it upstairs" if you feel something was egregious bettyellen Nov 2013 #73

Thank you for the alert. 840high Nov 2013 #106

You are most welcome, 840high! bettyellen Nov 2013 #141

What other woman-hating words do you see fit for using against palin? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #105

Unbelievable. 840high Nov 2013 #107

that's sort of gross dude n/t Tveil Nov 2013 #66

did you call kathleen harris a whore, too? i see that post was self deleted. do you generally go seabeyond Nov 2013 #75

No I did not. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #76

So, again, for the record: Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #77

You are free.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #78

Oh I'm sorry - did I misunderstand something? Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #80

I'm glad.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #82

Far more than you know. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #87

Be still my beating heart. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #89

I notice you haven't responded to the actual point. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #128

do you often call women whores? is this something that gives you are warm and cozy feeling in your seabeyond Nov 2013 #79

Are you always this.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #81

so, it is ok that you just deem palin the whore and i am sensitive. if a man chooses to call a seabeyond Nov 2013 #83

Ignore is your friend.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #84

you used a misoginist slur on the woman. are you allowed to use the n word on allen cause he is a seabeyond Nov 2013 #85

OK. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #86

i have a father name richard. goes by dick. i have a brother name richard, goes by dick. seabeyond Nov 2013 #90

Yikes.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #91

ya. you are the one that came up with the whore/shit in her mouth thing. that is all on you. seabeyond Nov 2013 #93

Actually.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #94

you called a woman a whore. you said you want to shit in her mouth. pretty simple. seabeyond Nov 2013 #98

Btw.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #92

no. i do not play the game. i do not call men dicks. you are the one doing that also. all on you seabeyond Nov 2013 #95

How about assholes? AZ Mike Nov 2013 #97

yes. seabeyond Nov 2013 #99

Good. You like "assholes".... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #100

Unfortunately.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #102

of course not cause where would the misogyny be? again. bigotry. against TOS rules. seabeyond Nov 2013 #104

Please explain why it's "misogyny"? AZ Mike Nov 2013 #108

calling a woman a whore. now you are going to use the bible to justify calling a woman a whore? seabeyond Nov 2013 #110

brilliant argument dude. brilliant. didnt the bible also give the thumbs up to slavery. go there. seabeyond Nov 2013 #112

Now you're spinning. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #116

no. that is exactly what you are doing. if the bible can call women whores, surely you can. seabeyond Nov 2013 #122

So, only women are whores? AZ Mike Nov 2013 #113

so now we are going to derail saying WHORE is not gender specific. wow. you are sqirming seabeyond Nov 2013 #120

No squirming here. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #124

o.m.fuckin. g. really? seeing how coporations are people too, i suppose the corp whore is a female seabeyond Nov 2013 #126

Jeez. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #129

yes. in the context of calling a woman, and only a woman a whore, that would be misogyny. got it. seabeyond Nov 2013 #132

I'm so glad I will never know you. You 840high Nov 2013 #111

Noted. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #121

You honestly don't think woman-hating existed in the Bible? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #114

Of course - as was the case in all religious texts. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #118

Even if it is just a biblical reference, which it clearly is not, you're still calling her a whore. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #135

Again with the contention that only women are "whores". AZ Mike Nov 2013 #136

Whore is sourced from High German meaning adultress. In french, it's "pute" which means girl. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #138

I did not know that. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #140

Because everyone knows whore is a term against women. Seriously, everyone. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #142

Alright. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #143

It's not my bias. It's reality's bias. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #146

i guess that is one way to claim you are not misogynist. just deny the very definition of what the seabeyond Nov 2013 #144

The surest way to prevent people from knowing history is to simply deny it. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #145

not really. you were awfully slow and many posts to get there. it all is really very simple. seabeyond Nov 2013 #103

It's utterly amazing to me that you've survived this long on DU with that mentality. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #101

Thank you for your input. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #109

I hope he doesn't delete it. I think it needs to stand for all to see. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #117

Wow. You called a woman a whore and volunteered to "shit in her mouth". When called on it myrna minx Nov 2013 #125

When I say.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #127

by your logic, you get away calling dick cheney dick, so what other names can you call women? seabeyond Nov 2013 #131

By your logic.... AZ Mike Nov 2013 #134

No, that's *your* logic. myrna minx Nov 2013 #147

You flung that out there - something *you* would say and kicked it down. myrna minx Nov 2013 #133

He was correct that someone should relieve himself in her mouth? Skip Intro Nov 2013 #15

Agreed. His apology was thorough and good but that was low. nolabear Nov 2013 #18

Thank you - I was beginning 840high Nov 2013 #130

was watching st ds9. and wondering what the hell he had done loli phabay Nov 2013 #17

LOL! TexasTowelie Nov 2013 #27

I agree with what Bashir said last week about Palin. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #19

agreed gopiscrap Nov 2013 #25

So why do you lead with 'fuck' him, elleng Nov 2013 #26

I am going to change it gopiscrap Nov 2013 #28

Good idea, I think. elleng Nov 2013 #30

just changed it gopiscrap Nov 2013 #32

Better. elleng Nov 2013 #33

thank you I was hurrying when I wrote so wanted to use a few words as possible gopiscrap Nov 2013 #34

Much more better.. Cha Nov 2013 #35

come now DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #36

"he was absolutely correct" . . . to apologize DrDan Nov 2013 #39

+1 rudolph the red Nov 2013 #52

+2 840high Nov 2013 #115

True about principles - plus, it's a mistake to apologize to a sociopath. polichick Nov 2013 #41

The "Liberal Media" myth continues. StarrGazerr Nov 2013 #43

Ever heard of perspective? IrishAyes Nov 2013 #48

Ever heard of integrity? StarrGazerr Nov 2013 #50

You're as welcome to your interpretation as I am to mine. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #54

Point taken StarrGazerr Nov 2013 #64

No problem. You were not unkind. I appreciate the chance to understand you better. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #68

I Have To Interject... ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #60

Point taken StarrGazerr Nov 2013 #63

I Understand What You're Saying... ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #69

I Had No Problem With What He Said... ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #44

See #48, please and thank you. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #49

You're Welcome... Facts Are Facts! n/t ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #61

I would hope our 840high Nov 2013 #119

Not For Nothing... But I Will Hold Off On My Impression Of You. ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #148

I thought his apology was thoughtful and heartfelt Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #46

Has Sarah Palin ever apologized for anything? grasswire Nov 2013 #51

No, that one he probably should have apologized for. Arkana Nov 2013 #56

what principle did he back off of? Enrique Nov 2013 #70

No truer indication of how far civilization has come... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #72

He could have called her out for the cipher she is without telling her to eat shit/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2013 #74

Exactly OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #88

O'Reilly said he doesn't want to show the video Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #96

How would you feel if this 840high Nov 2013 #123

Palin is one of the greatest assets to us LittleBlue Nov 2013 #137