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Rozlee

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19. Which of those charges aren't true?

Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:15 PM

Nov 2013

Bush did war profiteering in starting a war of choice and by allowing Cheney and his buddies to land plum defense contracts. He withheld vital intelligence information that could have prevented the war and outright lied to get us into it. He delayed investigations into 9/11 and helped the bin Ladin family escape as well as harboring Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada, who had been complicit in blowing up a Cuban jet liner. But, the stuff the right-wing accuses Democrats of is so visceral, especially Obama. "Socialist." Seriously. Those people on Medicare going on about how unconstitutional socialized medicine is can make your head explode at the cognitive dissonance. And then they start on on how fascist he is. Fascist? Well, I can get behind that easier than socialism. In a fascist government, the corporations are protected, which is what we've been doing to them in the last several decades. But, when I point that corporations are making better profits than they have since the Gilded Age, making Obama socialism's biggest slacker, they go on to their next favorite topic---BENGHAZI!!!

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Photos: Kennedy Hatred in 1960s Dallas Looks A Lot Like Obama Hatred Today [View all] JaneyVee Nov 2013 OP

Yes. peace13 Nov 2013 #1

First Catholic president, first Black president frazzled Nov 2013 #2

+1 Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #25

Plus Both are Democrats fredamae Nov 2013 #27

As a native Southerner, I can assure you that the voting base of the South has not changed... onehandle Nov 2013 #3

I think it stirred up nutjob Oswald who got a few lucky shots rbrnmw Nov 2013 #4

Actually Oswald was not a nutjob. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #14

He shot the president Egnever Nov 2013 #24

Yeah, that kinda Cha Nov 2013 #49

And in turn he was killed by a nutjob. That's why there is so much fascination with this case. duffyduff Nov 2013 #58

Oh, please. Suicide attempts, grandiosity, wife beating, couldn't hold a job, had a one-man duffyduff Nov 2013 #57

Its the same people. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #5

Good reminder, Hooptie.n/t dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #12

A good book to read is called "Wrapped In The Flag" by Claire Conner rbrnmw Nov 2013 #37

Gen Edwin Walker (who Oswald tried to kill) HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #38

i had forgotten about Oswald"s attempt on Walker rbrnmw Nov 2013 #39

Thanks for the book rec. Bookmarking. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2013 #45

Some things never change. nt City Lights Nov 2013 #6

Meh. There's always people who hate the president. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #7

Except that hate was merited. Look at the difference in reasons. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #10

It's always the same reason for Democrat presidents since Kennedy Major Nikon Nov 2013 #23

And, the call of "treason" was merited, too. Cha Nov 2013 #50

That was merited. The Right Wing Crap is made up, spun, and agenda driven by extremists AZ Progressive Nov 2013 #18

Which of those charges aren't true? Rozlee Nov 2013 #19

Guess that was prior to Iraq. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #33

Wow....haven't come that far at all have we..... a kennedy Nov 2013 #8

MANY in the Secret Service reflected those views. Octafish Nov 2013 #9

His story and frameup, pure amerikkkaner justice heaven05 Nov 2013 #22

A Secret Service man reports his concerns to the Warren Commission... Octafish Nov 2013 #28

VERY interesting! red dog 1 Nov 2013 #43

Connection: Siegelman judge is a big time war profiteer... Octafish Nov 2013 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author red dog 1 Nov 2013 #52

"Book finally clears first black Secret Service agent" red dog 1 Nov 2013 #54

Wow! And we think that hatred that spews out of Texas and other places has diminshed. I pray for mfcorey1 Nov 2013 #11

it's Scary I pray for him and all Democratic and Progressive Politicians rbrnmw Nov 2013 #40

Conservative haters have so much more power today ... JEFF9K Nov 2013 #13

Your OP is the main reason fadedrose Nov 2013 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #16

Same Shit, Different Generation AZ Progressive Nov 2013 #17

I was a young girl in small town Texas... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #20

You know what's sad? abelenkpe Nov 2013 #21

and about half my former Catholic Democratic Family and Friends rbrnmw Nov 2013 #46

Me too! abelenkpe Nov 2013 #51

Dedicated to socialism! moondust Nov 2013 #26

The Mink Coat Mob was the original Brooks Brothers Riot frylock Nov 2013 #29

Kennedy broke some social barriers just like Obama has liberal N proud Nov 2013 #30

and they brought Catholics who they hated back then along for hate ride this time rbrnmw Nov 2013 #47

It is, and there were extremely wealthy Texans who made it known. Time magazine lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #31

This is interesting 90-percent Nov 2013 #32

Only diff --- the pics are monochrome. lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #34

The more things change... SomethingFishy Nov 2013 #35

Those photos are from "the early 1960s", but not from Nov. 22, 1963 red dog 1 Nov 2013 #36

One person there said the turn out on the sidewalk was better than expected but KurtNYC Nov 2013 #41

"when you looked up into the office windows, the people who didn't come down, red dog 1 Nov 2013 #44

The only person who had contempt along the motorcade route was Lee Harvey Oswald. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #56

Exactly true. There wasn't a nicer, more friend city, than Dallas that day duffyduff Nov 2013 #55

I remember similar things during the Clinton years too. progressoid Nov 2013 #42

Right, just remember that a crazy disgruntled communist with a mail-order rifle Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #53

+ 1000 red dog 1 Nov 2013 #59