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In reply to the discussion: During the Zimmerman trial, we have had DUers argue for his acquittal, which, of course, happened... [View all]Rilgin
(797 posts)I do not want to be drawn into a long argument but that is exactly what can happen.
My wife served on a murder jury from a murder that occurred on the night of the San Francisco earthquake.
The murder victim had a confrontation with someone retreated, then came back. Read that again. The victim came back and was killed by the person who he had earlier had an altercation.
Did TM come back. I do not really know. Noone knows. I guess this is what I am responding to. There are two stories that could be true. I am a lawyer and actually looked at the evidence and testimony and I can not determine what story is true.
That is the problem with the TM GZ case. The problem with this argument is assumptions of things that can not be proved and assertions about human nature that are just not true. It is clear that 2 minutes elapsed between the time that TM initially ran pursued by GZ. An earlier post said that TM hid rather than run home based on an incident where he was stalked and the poster did not return home. This is reasonable conjecture and a possibe explanation but is just conjecture. It could (emphasis added) explain what happenned and is consistent with some aspects of human nature. The problem is that it was asserted by the poster as fact not a possible explanation for the time lapse.
The poster saying he believes TM ran home and then came back also has a reasonable explanation and also fits with human nature. That was the problem with the case and the reason for the acquital. There was not sufficient evidence to prove a willful murder or negate actual self defense.
As a liberal or progressive, my take is that the real problem with the GZ TM incident is the gun and lack of gun policy. It just proves that when you have confrontations between people no matter the cause or fact, regardless of whether the gun use is intentional or reactive, people can get killed rather than beat up.