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Pholus

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60. Fair enough then!

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 05:34 PM

Mar 2012

Then we actually do agree at the core issue Oh well, something usually comes up. Microsoft looked fairly unassailable a few years back and that changed -- just in time to at least blunt Palladium. Competition avoids system lockdown, which would be bad all-around.

And in that way, China did some good. As much as I despise foreign manufactured tech on principle, I did grudgingly appreciate one of my nearly non-English manuals for a DVD player 20 years back that warned me about a particular jumper and how I should never remove that jumper because region code protection would be removed and we all know that would be a bad thing to do so don't do it.

Here's hoping that someone remains around to do that for computing as the various "trusted computing" initiatives rolling around. If not it is off to open hardware....

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Sorry, but you can't shrug off the iPad. Heres why: [View all] denem Mar 2012 OP

I have a Lenovo tablet and my wife has an HP tablet. liberal N proud Mar 2012 #1

So is the point of this post to worship a product? Consumerism is overrated, you know. Pholus Mar 2012 #2

I'm just giving you the numbers. denem Mar 2012 #3

Why? Pholus Mar 2012 #12

To put a little perspective into the 'fad for fanbois' debate. denem Mar 2012 #15

I imagine it's a valid counter to the spin on DU over the past week LanternWaste Mar 2012 #16

It's not irrelevant, nor is it the second coming... Pholus Mar 2012 #19

The OP did not seem to imply that it is the second coming. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #28

Post 2 was not enough for you to understand my question and its intent? Pholus Mar 2012 #38

actually, if you're someone who is looking for work, consumerism isn't that overrated. onenote Mar 2012 #27

Nice try, but Apple's "The Irish Two Step" isn't really helping out people looking for work here. Pholus Mar 2012 #34

I was commenting on consumerism in general, not apple specifically onenote Mar 2012 #45

Perhaps, but I like to think Dick Cheney is wrong about everything. Pholus Mar 2012 #51

so what is your theory about what will fuel the economy and create jobs? onenote Mar 2012 #57

Actually start building things again. Pholus Mar 2012 #61

What sorts of things? onenote Mar 2012 #68

This *is* DU, isn't it? Haven't you been following along? 24 Jan 2012 would be a clue. Pholus Mar 2012 #74

Again, my comment wasn't about apple, per se. And it looks like we're in agreement on consumerism onenote Mar 2012 #77

Alright, yes I am Mr. Overreaction tonight. Pholus Mar 2012 #80

LibreOffice-formerly OpenOffice is free. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #4

LibreOffice does not include an Exchange client denem Mar 2012 #5

I don't find it necessary. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #6

That's fine. denem Mar 2012 #7

Anything that ties me to Outhouse is garbage in my book. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #8

I actually agree with you. denem Mar 2012 #11

The definition of bloat used to be the application included a web browser and email client. Pholus Mar 2012 #18

WordPerfect exists? RobinA Mar 2012 #50

Been using it since 5.0 for DOS. On X5 now hobbit709 Mar 2012 #79

I've had an iPad since version 1. Not all that impressed; even with the iCloud update. (meh) SlimJimmy Mar 2012 #9

It is way overpriced to be made in China adigal Mar 2012 #10

Apple 'Smokes the Competition' in Reliability Survey denem Mar 2012 #13

There is smoke there, but I think I will avoid inhaling it for now... ;) Pholus Mar 2012 #22

I's a survey. denem Mar 2012 #36

And not a particularly good one. Pholus Mar 2012 #41

Can you find a better one? denem Mar 2012 #46

No, nor do I care to try. The data in the survey was too refined however. Pholus Mar 2012 #49

Got it. denem Mar 2012 #55

I have my awesome laptop and a smart phone Drale Mar 2012 #14

That's fine. I am not suggesting anyone buy one. denem Mar 2012 #17

Not really. obxhead Mar 2012 #21

Back on earth got root Mar 2012 #87

I used to think that way, too, until I realized that I could Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #52

So what happened to the laptop? Pholus Mar 2012 #71

I use it for work (I'm self-employed and work at home) Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #82

Sounds like a good use! Pholus Mar 2012 #84

Sliced bread... It's going places. nt jobycom Mar 2012 #20

Hmm. So, 15MM iPad versus 50MM non-iPads. tledford Mar 2012 #23

On those numbers, 23% iPads isn't a drop in the ocean. denem Mar 2012 #25

One more thought. Does the iPad replace the PC? Pholus Mar 2012 #24

I have some other advice. HP should lay off NutMeg Whitman denem Mar 2012 #33

HP used to be a good AMERICAN tech company. Then the current bunch of CEOs came in. Pholus Mar 2012 #35

DEC had a superb CPU, the Alpha. denem Mar 2012 #37

So you understand my general lack of enthusiasm about any hype then? Pholus Mar 2012 #39

I'm actually trying to stand back a little from the hype vs anti-hype. denem Mar 2012 #43

Yet a minute ago you talk about 92% of fortune 500 companies experimenting.... Pholus Mar 2012 #47

The 92% was an answer to a bald statement that denem Mar 2012 #54

Fair enough then! Pholus Mar 2012 #60

Let me know when they make one with a 22" screen IDemo Mar 2012 #26

Me neither actually. denem Mar 2012 #30

Which only proves ohheckyeah Mar 2012 #29

iPass! yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2012 #31

Sure I can, I have no need for one and no interest in buying one Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #32

Thats why 92% of Fortune 500 companies are testing or deploying the iPad denem Mar 2012 #40

I strongly doubt that its being tested to replace computers for data entry... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #56

To replace laptops, sure, not to replace workstations and servers. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #63

I was able to buy a netbook for 250 bucks a year ago... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #42

If you only need a low resolution screen fine. denem Mar 2012 #44

Works fine for me, indeed, with screens as small as 11 inches or so... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #53

And yet, somehow, I've gotten by with just a crap laptop. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #48

so you believe that people buying iPads have naked starving children and never go on vacation. onenote Mar 2012 #58

Nope. Didn't say that. If I bought an iPad, I wouldn't be able to take ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #62

But if you bought an iPad you could go to YouTube and watch footage of a rodeo Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #64

So am I correct that while you think it woudl be a "stupid" thing for you to purchase, onenote Mar 2012 #66

You are correct in thinking that I am someone who finds access to the internet ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #72

Is there ANY other consumer product that gets advocated here the way Apple shit does? Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #59

Is there any other consumer product that gets dumped on here the way Apple shit does? onenote Mar 2012 #65

Might be a correlation then... Pholus Mar 2012 #67

Why does derision toward Apple require such prompt and valiant response from the same people here? Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #70

And the pure anger that comes from them when someone does not toe the Apple ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #73

Quote: "Who's mad? I'm ROFLing that someone could compare that piece of shit with an iPad!" Pholus Mar 2012 #75

I was about to ask the same question. Of course, the goal of the iPad is to kill both PCs & books Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #69

DU use to have the daily car wars Johonny Mar 2012 #78

Can you imagine Guttenberg, sittin in a bar... got root Mar 2012 #88

Generally avoid these threads, but the numbers don't show anything really Spike89 Mar 2012 #76

Sure I can. Watch- ::Shrugs:: Edweird Mar 2012 #81

I have something for that... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #83

a lot of people also buy Celine Dion records Enrique Mar 2012 #85

The i-Pad is a great toy for transit..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #86

Really? peasant one Mar 2012 #89