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In reply to the discussion: Solution for those who do not want to purchase health care insurance... [View all]solarhydrocan
(551 posts)72. You've been reading the Heritage Foundation document that started this train wreck
haven't you.
When did "liberals" become such fans of insurance? This is absolutely disgusting.

Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans
By Stuart M. Butler, Heritage Foudation
2) Mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance. Many states now require passengers in automobiles to wear seatbelts for their own protection. Many others require anybody driving a car to have liability insurance. But neither the federal government nor any state requires all households to protect themselves from the potentially catastrophic costs of a serious accident or illness.
Under the Heritage plan, there would be such a requirement. This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility.
Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection. If a young man wrecks his Porsche and has not had the foresight to obtain insurance, we may commiserate but society feels no obligation to repair his car. But health care is different.
If a man is struck down by a heart attack in the street, Americans will care for him whether or not h e has insurance. If we find that he has spent his money on other things rather than insurance, we may be angry but we will not deny him services - even if that means more prudent citizens end up paying the tab.
A mandate on individuals recognizes this implicit contract. Society does feel a moral obligation to insure that its citizens do not suffer from the unavailability of health care. But on the other hand, each household has the obligation, to the extent it is able, to avoid placing demands on society by protecting itself
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans
The health insurance mandate in the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is an idea hatched in 1989 by Stuart M. Butler at Heritage in a publication titled "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans".[21] This was also the model for Mitt Romney's health care plan in Massachusetts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_foundation#Policy_influence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_foundation#Policy_influence
You know what? You can have your insurance, your drone strikes, your banker bailouts and your 24/7 surveillance. I'm leaving this country just as soon as possible. I've had it. I'm out. There's no "Liberal" here, there's not even "Middle". Everyone is a Heritage Foundation fan.
And you should prepare for hyperinflation, because printing $80 billion per month to bail out the fraudulent bankers hasn't even begun to come back around. I'll be reading about your $20 dollar loaves of bread between margaritas on a beach.
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Solution for those who do not want to purchase health care insurance... [View all]
liberal N proud
Nov 2013
OP
I think one of the problems is that even with the new policies that are offered...
peace13
Nov 2013
#1
Not aware of cost sharing subsidies for deductible and out of pocket. Sounds interesting.
peace13
Nov 2013
#60
My husband and I are big advocates of seeing our PCP first and getting a referral from them if
CTyankee
Nov 2013
#101
Just those who are telling us it is wrong to require everyone to get covered.
liberal N proud
Nov 2013
#16
"maybe I need to join a religion that doesn't believe in medical treatment" sounds like you already
dionysus
Nov 2013
#17
Well, I am against that also. I would never deny life saving treatment to ANYONE.
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#29
I was just throwing out a suggestion. Some states refused to even expand that.
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#85
The exemption is from the “individual shared responsibility payment” to qualify
Jesus Malverde
Nov 2013
#14
The real purpose of the idea is to shut down those who are bemoaning the requirement
liberal N proud
Nov 2013
#38
The last sentence (update) is the second part of the code which I quoted earlier.
Ms. Toad
Nov 2013
#96
If they do not have insurance by march 2014, and they go into a hospital, it will be like it was
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#27
Eh, I'll have insurance, I still won't have care, outside of a yearly checkup...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#31
Mine will be employer provided, since my employer provides it, I get no subsidies...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#47
The plan that was available last year sucked, I decided not to enroll..
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#66
Some people don't own anything so they don't haave anything to sell or for anyone to take.
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#78
You will have to get the federal law requiring ER rooms give treatment, insurance or not, changed.
former9thward
Nov 2013
#37
I think once you tell people they have to make that choice, they will opt for coverage
liberal N proud
Nov 2013
#40
As a responsible person, I have auto insurance, property insurance, liability insurance.
JNinWB
Nov 2013
#57
Why, as Americans, can't we have what virtually every other civilized nation in the world has?
Romulox
Nov 2013
#64
You've been reading the Heritage Foundation document that started this train wreck
solarhydrocan
Nov 2013
#72
I haven't a clue what Republicans are even needed for, we've big tented ourselves
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#86
Same for relatives: Do NOT come running to me for cancer operation/treatment donation if you.../..
ErikJ
Nov 2013
#89