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MindPilot

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44. May only be California.

Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:12 PM

Nov 2013

And it is kind of "squishy" not firmly spelled out in the vehicle code, but has been a de facto policy ever since a CHP officer murdered a young woman after pulling her over.

From local TV news:

California Highway Patrol Officer Brian Pennings said the law regarding traffic stops hasn't changed, but officers are aware there may be concerns about safety.

"The vehicle code requires you to stop and the officer's not going to stop you in an unsafe location," Pennings said.

He said drivers should communicate that by turning on "hazard lights or make hand signals to the officer, 'I'm going to stop over here.'"

http://www.10news.com/news/impact-of-knott-case-still-felt-by-chp

And here is the case that led to that policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Peyer

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MSNBC just aired a more complete video of the mother who was pulled over in New Mexico [View all] politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2013 OP

k & r Orrex Nov 2013 #1

I've been seeing the whole video for days. bravenak Nov 2013 #2

What does "race" have to do with this!? So that means shoot at a car speeding away full of kids?! uponit7771 Nov 2013 #3

That's what I was wondering reading the previous comments!! no1uno Nov 2013 #5

My point was that video shows a longer version in which the cop who originally pulled her politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2013 #7

Bottom line is the unconstitutional use of deadly force. DURHAM D Nov 2013 #8

+1,000 n/t malaise Nov 2013 #33

that's not the point here.. the point is shooting at something when the cop wasn't in danger uponit7771 Nov 2013 #29

The mother was the one who appears to have put her family in jeopardy initially. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2013 #37

The shooting at the car is when things get out of hand and the cop diverges from what he supposed to uponit7771 Nov 2013 #38

Well, the woman clearly, even in the short video and explanation, was a jerk...HOWEVER... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #4

Also, don't smash the glass with a nightstick... KansDem Nov 2013 #6

Yeah, there is no excuse for what that cop did... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #10

There was no cause to shoot at the vehicle and such actions are against Kahuna Nov 2013 #9

Oh! So it's Sharpton's fault. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #11

Did not see the edited version tiredtoo Nov 2013 #12

SMH Mr Dixon Nov 2013 #13

So the cop bashing the window with kids in the car, didn't endanger the kids more??? Kahuna Nov 2013 #14

The point is Mr Dixon Nov 2013 #16

My point is . . . brush Nov 2013 #20

IMO Mr Dixon Nov 2013 #23

Cops worlds seem to be less and less perfect even when they're NOT in danger uponit7771 Nov 2013 #30

You're right about that � cops in America v African Americans brush Nov 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Politicalboi Nov 2013 #32

And your point is ridiculous kcr Nov 2013 #28

Really? SMH Mr Dixon Nov 2013 #48

So do you now think the actions of the police were justified? Incitatus Nov 2013 #15

The woman should not have pulled off . . . brush Nov 2013 #17

"the son who tried to help his mother is now charge with aggravated assault." Orrex Nov 2013 #19

The son did what most sons would do . . . brush Nov 2013 #22

You are speculating Orrex Nov 2013 #25

What yes/no equation I imagine? brush Nov 2013 #34

Once the driver fled the scene, it was no longer a traffic stop. Orrex Nov 2013 #36

link lame54 Nov 2013 #18

link? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 #21

Link n/t warrprayer Nov 2013 #24

vid Go Vols Nov 2013 #26

Does it still show a cop shooting at a car full of kids? Iggo Nov 2013 #27

Three paragraphs in the op.... NCTraveler Nov 2013 #40

Yeah, I caught the dog whistle. Iggo Nov 2013 #43

Thanks for mentioning it so I don't have to... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #45

This reminds me of the woman who panicked in front of the White House. nolabear Nov 2013 #35

Al Sharpton has a fully body of work for you to look at. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #39

You are allowed to leave a traffic stop if you feel you are in danger. MindPilot Nov 2013 #41

Even then, I think you need to wait for the cop's permission Orrex Nov 2013 #42

May only be California. MindPilot Nov 2013 #44

Why would you attempt to hijack the discussion of a hideous act Judi Lynn Nov 2013 #46

You apparently missed the whole point...... Logical Nov 2013 #47

The solution to most situations faced by a police officer isn't to start shooting. DefenseLawyer Nov 2013 #49