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Gothmog

(177,864 posts)
78. Good Post
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:47 PM
Nov 2013

The people who support President Obama and the DU members who are considering supporting Hillary Clinton are Democrats and liberals. I think that projection explains some of these threads.

Look, I am going to focus on 2014 for now. Texas has a very important race for governor in 2014 that could affect the 2016 race. I admit that I really want to turn my state blue and I can not help but notice the polling that indicate that Hillary Clinton could be successful in that effort. Two of the groups being targeted by Wendy Davis are single white females and Hispanic voters which are two groups who supported Hillary Clinton in 2008 (I was in the middle of credential fights in 2008 and know the backgrounds of each group supporting the various candidates).

I am a liberal and a Democrat even though i want to focus on 2014 and I will remain a liberal and a Democrat even if I decide that Hillary Clinton is the best choice for 2016. I am tired of living in a red state and the only way to change things will be to first work like crazy for Senator Wendy Davis and then select the best candidate for the 2016 race in part on who has the best chance of making my vote count in the electoral college.

If the facts change between now and 2016, I will look at other candidates. In the meantime, none of these threads attacking Hillary Clinton or President Obama are going to change my mind as to my priorities and what needs to be done.

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Haven't you heard? We're purists who will put Rick Santorum in the White House ... Scuba Nov 2013 #1
the "purist" label isn't as offensive cali Nov 2013 #2
Not "purists". The correct term is ideologue. It defines the situation exactly. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #34
Also that so many suffer from irony deficiency. Scuba Nov 2013 #39
I have a two word response to anyone that accuses me of that. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #3
an appropriate response cali Nov 2013 #4
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Better Believe It!...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #7
How are politics in Canada, Sid? cali Nov 2013 #8
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Hello ~ Hushkitty. You might want to rethink what you've just posted. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #12
Somehow I doubt that he could possibly Puglover Nov 2013 #51
... SidDithers Nov 2013 #53
My point Sid Puglover Nov 2013 #65
I'll share this because it's encourging to see that most here on DU are not buying it at all Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #9
thanks. heartening to see. cali Nov 2013 #10
and another 6-0 from just minutes ago Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #13
and the clown jury hides Cali for attacking back ...pffft L0oniX Nov 2013 #64
I think you protest too much ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #14
you have just proved the point of the OP. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #15
+1 Enthusiast Nov 2013 #16
No..they've correctly identified the problem with the OP: it's facile. msanthrope Nov 2013 #17
The OP has no point and the majority of people agreeing w/Cali's crap are the MOST likely KittyWampus Nov 2013 #28
Looked in the mirror lately? hobbit709 Nov 2013 #45
+100000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #32
Really? Where's the claim that she's a stealth teabagger? jeff47 Nov 2013 #61
How so? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #68
I think your post encapsualtes everything that is wrong with DU. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #19
Exactly. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #33
I guess "we" in that post are the people who call progressives Republicans. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #54
How is ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #69
Oh please, I said nothing personal to you. What a precious comment that is! Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #73
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #77
Why does she need to post an alternative to the TPP? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #25
She does not need to post an alternative. The WTO governs trade between all these countries, except pampango Nov 2013 #29
Obviously the TPP involves new issues beyond the WTOs current purview. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #52
That is true of TPP and of every trade agreement that any country negotiates. Otherwise pampango Nov 2013 #58
That's some serious projection. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #18
Nailed it... SidDithers Nov 2013 #21
YUP ... True Democrats can call the not true Democrats Republicans as much as they want. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #23
Right? I had someone attack me so nastily while calling me a republican> and I'm pretty far left. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #27
Agree ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #42
Tactics are very important and you can disagree on long term strategy Gothmog Nov 2013 #85
Yup! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #31
Good Post Gothmog Nov 2013 #78
Marginalize Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #20
^^^^^^ Well said. ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Nov 2013 #60
It does go both ways. Certainly more Moderate / Centrist DUers have to put up with el_bryanto Nov 2013 #22
Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #72
K&R The single most important goal of the corporate propaganda machine woo me with science Nov 2013 #24
Right, it's only "them" who use propaganda. You, of course have the singular truth. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #36
The stage is set for a populist revolt and the ptb know it... polichick Nov 2013 #37
Everything you said. nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #66
Edit- seems to me it's the ideolouges busily calling anyone who disagrees w/their opinion on stratey KittyWampus Nov 2013 #26
Seems to me you could easily support that assertion if it were true. You have repeatedly stated Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #74
liberals/progressives are calling each other 'Republicans?' When did this happen? </sacrasm> wyldwolf Nov 2013 #30
Well, I find it a source of amusement, it is the usual gang of swooners who quinnox Nov 2013 #35
Bizarre, the point is focus on 2014 elections. And one of the "swooners" is WillPitt. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #38
Obviously I was not referring to Pitt quinnox Nov 2013 #41
Generally, the 2 groups I find on DU are those whose intent is to discuss things and those KittyWampus Nov 2013 #47
Results of your Jury Service LittleBlue Nov 2013 #57
Thanks for the results quinnox Nov 2013 #62
It's sometimes true... but the accusation is waved around like a blunderbuss... sibelian Nov 2013 #40
The exact opposite is true, cali scheming daemons Nov 2013 #43
Support you assertion please. You should be able to show many posts in which a DUer calls another Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #75
The effort is not a new one. Orsino Nov 2013 #44
This has been going on since the assasination of JFK. We had a very strong liberal leadership them jwirr Nov 2013 #46
I'll tell you the difference. ananda Nov 2013 #48
You got that right cali. Autumn Nov 2013 #49
It's the old "We're far too busy to discuss where we're going." routine JVS Nov 2013 #50
I would respond, PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #55
you must be a teabagger then cali! dionysus Nov 2013 #56
A DUer told me last night that Chris Christie thanks me for voting for Bernie Sanders in 2016. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #59
What if Chris Christie became a Democrat? Then there would be high praise for him from the same... JVS Nov 2013 #81
That effort is not only in the direction you claim. jeff47 Nov 2013 #63
It's done on behalf of someone who calls himself a Republican of the Reagan Revolution kenny blankenship Nov 2013 #67
I don't know why they still keep trying, once they blamed *Cast Lead* on *Nader*.... MisterP Nov 2013 #70
I don't think all the anti-admin posts here are RW infiltrators, jazzimov Nov 2013 #71
Three months ago, I was looking forward to gains in 2014 Riftaxe Nov 2013 #76
But I like spinach... Kermitt Gribble Nov 2013 #79
Dupe... Kermitt Gribble Nov 2013 #80
Such accusations come quick to those that favor corporate dominance, imperialism, treating the TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #82
My focus on 2014 is based on a number of factors Gothmog Nov 2013 #83
+1 for classic New Yorker cartoon reference! hatrack Nov 2013 #84
Kick bobduca Nov 2013 #86
k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #87
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