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Xipe Totec

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46. Well, now we have a lifetime to figure out if it's treatable

Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:40 PM

Nov 2013

Life sentence means he'll still be alive, if we figure out a way to fix his wiring.

Meantime, he's in a place where we're safe from him. Though I can't say if he's safe from us, knowing what I know about prisons.

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Colo. teen who killed girl to spend life in prison [View all] Xipe Totec Nov 2013 OP

Evil has nothing to do with it. rug Nov 2013 #1

this kid kidnapped, raped, killed, and chopped a child into pieces..... chillfactor Nov 2013 #3

Ok, throw out the law books and replace it with Deuteronomy. rug Nov 2013 #11

I get what you're saying. Sarcasm and all Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #32

because justice in America is all about revenge, rather than rehabilitation.... mike_c Nov 2013 #26

Sometimes the wiring is messed up and it's not about rehabilitation Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #29

but is it really possible to know that at the beginning of someone's life? mike_c Nov 2013 #35

Redemption begins with contrition and compunction. Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #42

Did you ever seriously consider torture and murder as a teenager? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #43

Oh hell no. He's wired wrong. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #38

I'll have to defer to your knowledge... mike_c Nov 2013 #41

yep he...kidnapped, raped, killed, and chopped a child into pieces. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #45

And showed no remorse when sentenced. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #47

And only ONCE, during the entire trial, showed even a hint of emotion. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #48

In most cases I would probably agree with you. But did you read the details of this one??? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #7

Yeah, pretty horrible. rug Nov 2013 #12

Yeah, I'm not all that comfortable with moralizing from the bench myself. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #15

Yeah, shit happens, eh? nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #23

More shit doesn't help, eh? rug Nov 2013 #28

Where's the shit? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #37

It's unlikely he will kill again if he has the chance at parole. rug Nov 2013 #39

Oh don't worry, he'll be sat on and watched CFLDem Nov 2013 #51

Are you giddy at the prospect of prison rape? rug Nov 2013 #52

No just emphasizing karma. n/t CFLDem Nov 2013 #54

That explains the smiley. rug Nov 2013 #55

Yep, child rapists/murderers don't fare well in prison, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #53

The type of killer who does that to people, especially children, cannot be redeemed or rehabilitated ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #8

An opinion stated as fact remains an opinion, no matter how uniformed. rug Nov 2013 #13

Most noted criminal forensic and pathological experts would agree ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #18

Then it should be a simple task to link to. rug Nov 2013 #19

Not really ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #21

It appears you did waste a lot of money. rug Nov 2013 #30

how do you know that...? mike_c Nov 2013 #27

He doesn't. It's bullshit. rug Nov 2013 #31

If he isn't free to kill and dismember another 10 year old.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #40

The judge isn't responsible for the convict's redemption. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #20

Rehabilation is one of the three core purposes of criminal sentencing. rug Nov 2013 #33

There's no such thing as redemption. Codeine Nov 2013 #22

Without the last, the first two are meaningless. rug Nov 2013 #34

At what age should teens be tried as adults DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #2

I have no assumptions. I'm posting only for information Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #6

Thanks....this definitely wasnt a "shoot the messenger thing". The story just made me think about DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #14

Teens are usually tried as adults for the really psychopathic, premeditated stuff Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #10

Right--it does seem to be reserved for big, violent crimes. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #16

I do remember a lot of states pledging to change the law after this case: Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #17

Sounds reasonable. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2013 #4

Unless there's treatable mental illness Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #5

Well, now we have a lifetime to figure out if it's treatable Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #46

Don't they have to do a mental evaluation? Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #49

Maybe in ten years, or twenty. Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #50

Good. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2013 #9

"There is something simply broken in him that can't be fixed." Deuce Nov 2013 #24

the Tsarnaev brother should get the same thing JI7 Nov 2013 #25

Good. We lived through that nightmare. I'm so sorry for her parents. DevonRex Nov 2013 #36

No problem with this, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #44