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Spike89

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76. Generally avoid these threads, but the numbers don't show anything really

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 06:32 PM

Mar 2012

A new type of device out sells a range of devices that have been around for decades. In other words, 100% of the people who might want/need one had no iPad or iPad-like tablets the last couple years. While at the same time, nearly 100% of people who wanted/needed a PC could get one. Add in the power that Apple has at attracting early adopters and you can't extend that adoption curve very far with any certainty.

Of course the 90+% of Fortune 500 stat is actually funny. I've worked in the IT department of a Fortune 500 company and we "evaluated" damn near everything. It would be hard to find a device that isn't in 90+% of Fortune 500 companies. It is also meaningless. Virtually 100% of Fortune 500 companies pay some employees a salary in excess of $1 million a year--doesn't mean $1 million salaries are common there.

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Sorry, but you can't shrug off the iPad. Heres why: [View all] denem Mar 2012 OP

I have a Lenovo tablet and my wife has an HP tablet. liberal N proud Mar 2012 #1

So is the point of this post to worship a product? Consumerism is overrated, you know. Pholus Mar 2012 #2

I'm just giving you the numbers. denem Mar 2012 #3

Why? Pholus Mar 2012 #12

To put a little perspective into the 'fad for fanbois' debate. denem Mar 2012 #15

I imagine it's a valid counter to the spin on DU over the past week LanternWaste Mar 2012 #16

It's not irrelevant, nor is it the second coming... Pholus Mar 2012 #19

The OP did not seem to imply that it is the second coming. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #28

Post 2 was not enough for you to understand my question and its intent? Pholus Mar 2012 #38

actually, if you're someone who is looking for work, consumerism isn't that overrated. onenote Mar 2012 #27

Nice try, but Apple's "The Irish Two Step" isn't really helping out people looking for work here. Pholus Mar 2012 #34

I was commenting on consumerism in general, not apple specifically onenote Mar 2012 #45

Perhaps, but I like to think Dick Cheney is wrong about everything. Pholus Mar 2012 #51

so what is your theory about what will fuel the economy and create jobs? onenote Mar 2012 #57

Actually start building things again. Pholus Mar 2012 #61

What sorts of things? onenote Mar 2012 #68

This *is* DU, isn't it? Haven't you been following along? 24 Jan 2012 would be a clue. Pholus Mar 2012 #74

Again, my comment wasn't about apple, per se. And it looks like we're in agreement on consumerism onenote Mar 2012 #77

Alright, yes I am Mr. Overreaction tonight. Pholus Mar 2012 #80

LibreOffice-formerly OpenOffice is free. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #4

LibreOffice does not include an Exchange client denem Mar 2012 #5

I don't find it necessary. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #6

That's fine. denem Mar 2012 #7

Anything that ties me to Outhouse is garbage in my book. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #8

I actually agree with you. denem Mar 2012 #11

The definition of bloat used to be the application included a web browser and email client. Pholus Mar 2012 #18

WordPerfect exists? RobinA Mar 2012 #50

Been using it since 5.0 for DOS. On X5 now hobbit709 Mar 2012 #79

I've had an iPad since version 1. Not all that impressed; even with the iCloud update. (meh) SlimJimmy Mar 2012 #9

It is way overpriced to be made in China adigal Mar 2012 #10

Apple 'Smokes the Competition' in Reliability Survey denem Mar 2012 #13

There is smoke there, but I think I will avoid inhaling it for now... ;) Pholus Mar 2012 #22

I's a survey. denem Mar 2012 #36

And not a particularly good one. Pholus Mar 2012 #41

Can you find a better one? denem Mar 2012 #46

No, nor do I care to try. The data in the survey was too refined however. Pholus Mar 2012 #49

Got it. denem Mar 2012 #55

I have my awesome laptop and a smart phone Drale Mar 2012 #14

That's fine. I am not suggesting anyone buy one. denem Mar 2012 #17

Not really. obxhead Mar 2012 #21

Back on earth got root Mar 2012 #87

I used to think that way, too, until I realized that I could Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #52

So what happened to the laptop? Pholus Mar 2012 #71

I use it for work (I'm self-employed and work at home) Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #82

Sounds like a good use! Pholus Mar 2012 #84

Sliced bread... It's going places. nt jobycom Mar 2012 #20

Hmm. So, 15MM iPad versus 50MM non-iPads. tledford Mar 2012 #23

On those numbers, 23% iPads isn't a drop in the ocean. denem Mar 2012 #25

One more thought. Does the iPad replace the PC? Pholus Mar 2012 #24

I have some other advice. HP should lay off NutMeg Whitman denem Mar 2012 #33

HP used to be a good AMERICAN tech company. Then the current bunch of CEOs came in. Pholus Mar 2012 #35

DEC had a superb CPU, the Alpha. denem Mar 2012 #37

So you understand my general lack of enthusiasm about any hype then? Pholus Mar 2012 #39

I'm actually trying to stand back a little from the hype vs anti-hype. denem Mar 2012 #43

Yet a minute ago you talk about 92% of fortune 500 companies experimenting.... Pholus Mar 2012 #47

The 92% was an answer to a bald statement that denem Mar 2012 #54

Fair enough then! Pholus Mar 2012 #60

Let me know when they make one with a 22" screen IDemo Mar 2012 #26

Me neither actually. denem Mar 2012 #30

Which only proves ohheckyeah Mar 2012 #29

iPass! yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2012 #31

Sure I can, I have no need for one and no interest in buying one Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #32

Thats why 92% of Fortune 500 companies are testing or deploying the iPad denem Mar 2012 #40

I strongly doubt that its being tested to replace computers for data entry... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #56

To replace laptops, sure, not to replace workstations and servers. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #63

I was able to buy a netbook for 250 bucks a year ago... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #42

If you only need a low resolution screen fine. denem Mar 2012 #44

Works fine for me, indeed, with screens as small as 11 inches or so... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #53

And yet, somehow, I've gotten by with just a crap laptop. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #48

so you believe that people buying iPads have naked starving children and never go on vacation. onenote Mar 2012 #58

Nope. Didn't say that. If I bought an iPad, I wouldn't be able to take ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #62

But if you bought an iPad you could go to YouTube and watch footage of a rodeo Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #64

So am I correct that while you think it woudl be a "stupid" thing for you to purchase, onenote Mar 2012 #66

You are correct in thinking that I am someone who finds access to the internet ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #72

Is there ANY other consumer product that gets advocated here the way Apple shit does? Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #59

Is there any other consumer product that gets dumped on here the way Apple shit does? onenote Mar 2012 #65

Might be a correlation then... Pholus Mar 2012 #67

Why does derision toward Apple require such prompt and valiant response from the same people here? Dreamer Tatum Mar 2012 #70

And the pure anger that comes from them when someone does not toe the Apple ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #73

Quote: "Who's mad? I'm ROFLing that someone could compare that piece of shit with an iPad!" Pholus Mar 2012 #75

I was about to ask the same question. Of course, the goal of the iPad is to kill both PCs & books Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #69

DU use to have the daily car wars Johonny Mar 2012 #78

Can you imagine Guttenberg, sittin in a bar... got root Mar 2012 #88

Generally avoid these threads, but the numbers don't show anything really Spike89 Mar 2012 #76

Sure I can. Watch- ::Shrugs:: Edweird Mar 2012 #81

I have something for that... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #83

a lot of people also buy Celine Dion records Enrique Mar 2012 #85

The i-Pad is a great toy for transit..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #86

Really? peasant one Mar 2012 #89