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BlueStreak

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1. For F###'s sake. This isn't an essential part of the system

Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:41 AM

Nov 2013

If I understand it correctly, once you enroll, your application is transmitted to THE FREAKING INSURANCE COMPANY you select, and THEY COLLECT THE PAYMENT. There is no necessity for healthcare.gov to collect anything.

Perhaps it would be a "nice to have" to go ahead and take the first monthly payment right at the healthcare.gov website. But it most certainly is not essential. And yes, if healthcare.gov starts collecting the first payment, then obviously they will have to have an accounting system to settle up with the insurance companies. This seems like a really good thing to plan for the 2015 open enrollment and a really lousy thing to make a priority for 2014 with all the real issues that are on the table.

What is wrong with these morons? Why do they play defense of every damned issue? Isn't there a single person in this administration that can state the facts clearly and positively without being bullied by a bunch of Republican assholes?

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Obamacare bombshell: IT official says HealthCare.gov needs payment feature [View all] FarCenter Nov 2013 OP

For F###'s sake. This isn't an essential part of the system BlueStreak Nov 2013 #1

I think you missed something...... Glitterati Nov 2013 #3

Then the article/argument is grossly misleading. THis is not a "bombshell" BlueStreak Nov 2013 #4

More like a nutshell. ananda Nov 2013 #19

I think that the payments are made monthly per policy, and accounted per SSN by the IRS FarCenter Nov 2013 #33

It is freaking BACK OFFICE. It doesn't have to be done before January 2015 BlueStreak Nov 2013 #34

It needs to be done by January 2014 when the payments begin to the insurance companies. FarCenter Nov 2013 #42

You don't have to have an elegant solution in place in January BlueStreak Nov 2013 #47

Yes I've been a project manager, and I know what a disastrous IT project looks like. FarCenter Nov 2013 #48

None of it affects the customer? B2G Nov 2013 #53

That isn't going to happen. Stop being hysterical. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #67

70 days is plenty of time B2G Nov 2013 #74

If people knew your posts, they probably wouldn't bother: CreekDog Nov 2013 #49

If the insurance company isn't paid, they won't provide insurance. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #73

Io capisco Rstrstx Nov 2013 #5

And they will get their subsidy, and it will be worked out. GIVE IT TIME. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #9

They have to get this or some way of paying the subsidies worked out in less than two months Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #46

I don't know if everything will technically be worked out in time.. Rstrstx Nov 2013 #64

There has to be some mechanism to make the premium subsidy payments Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #43

Solution: Paypal. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #2

The IRS would use Paypal to make the per policy subsidy payments to the insurance companies? FarCenter Nov 2013 #37

Insurance companies would have to wait. I'd make them fill out a 42 page application for payment. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #50

you Better Believe It, dkf! scheming daemons Nov 2013 #6

LOL. nt SunSeeker Nov 2013 #7

lol treestar Nov 2013 #11

No kidding. And this poster is consistently negative Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #57

The payments can be maid via other means... this is misleading uponit7771 Nov 2013 #8

That's not a bombshell treestar Nov 2013 #10

"how come there's no criticism of Apple, for instance?" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #12

No but they put that Maverick system out treestar Nov 2013 #13

"when you download it, there are tons of undesirable effects." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #14

My real point is there are a lot of computer and web site treestar Nov 2013 #15

"people act like this one had to be perfect" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #16

Have you ever paid a bill in your life without using a government website? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #18

Yes, but that was predicated on all parties knowing the terms of the contract. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #22

What terms are unknown? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #23

Apparently -- Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #24

that's always been an option for people not getting subsidies nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #28

Re-read the article. They're cisidering privatizing the subsidy portion as well. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #29

This is a good solution. FarCenter Nov 2013 #38

LOL so true. When Medicare or Social Security first started treestar Nov 2013 #58

The web site doesn't have to be treestar Nov 2013 #56

"you can apply other ways." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #63

Apple works GladRagDahl Nov 2013 #30

Because the TAXPAYERS didn't give Apple a hundred million and five years to get it working... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #41

LOL. Maybe we didn't *want* it to work. Ever think of that, huh? Huh?? nt Romulox Nov 2013 #44

You mean like this? Revanchist Nov 2013 #55

Maybe. My point is there are a lot of web site issues world over treestar Nov 2013 #61

I think the cause of concern for many Revanchist Nov 2013 #62

Why does Apple get more attention than my neighbor? joeglow3 Nov 2013 #66

DKF was much better at trolling than you are. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #17

This is the payment of the subsidy from the IRS to the isurance company FarCenter Nov 2013 #39

Well said. His time will come. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #52

RW smear. Doremus Nov 2013 #20

because the OP wants us to CreekDog Nov 2013 #21

Here it is from the NY Times - "Health Insurance Marketplace Is Still About 40 Percent Incomplete" FarCenter Nov 2013 #40

BFD Doremus Nov 2013 #80

And it only accepts Bitcoin Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #25

Any reason why you posted this RW FUD again? tridim Nov 2013 #26

this is no "bombshell"...... chillfactor Nov 2013 #27

I keep trying to put quarters into my laptop when I'm on the website NightWatcher Nov 2013 #31

Maybe heads do need to roll tibbiit Nov 2013 #32

It is called critical path planning. Those payments are not on the critical path. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #36

They weren't on the critical path for Oct 1 B2G Nov 2013 #54

Well, it isn't mid-January now, is it? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #69

You sure do know a lot about B2G Nov 2013 #75

I have been developing large-scale (mainframe-class and server-class) bus apps BlueStreak Nov 2013 #76

And I have been managing large IT projects for 20 years B2G Nov 2013 #77

I agree that there has been plenty of bad management. But from where we stand BlueStreak Nov 2013 #78

Our application program has a payment system Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #35

Only 10 days left... nt Romulox Nov 2013 #45

Thank you for your FarCenter post which is far enough from center to please a teabagger. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #51

Oh my, shock and awe. Arkana Nov 2013 #59

BOMBSHELL Prediction!! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #60

Why would they need that? The citizen pays the company, they don't pay the ACA. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #65

Bravo, DU! As of my posting at 11am PST, scores of replies and zero rec's Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #68

That's only because there is no "You gots to be kidding me" button. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #71

If only! TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #81

trying to top the last RW hit piece you posted? dionysus Nov 2013 #70

three and a half years. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #72

It seems pretty clear that the site isn't going to be completed by the end of Nov, rudolph the red Nov 2013 #79