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JHB

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37. Part Air Force culture, part overemphasis on "multirole"
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:42 PM
Nov 2013

From the Op article:

As good as the A-10 is in close-air support, the military classifies it as a single-role aircraft. That's the problem. Going forward, the Air Force has said it wants to rid itself of one-mission planes in favor of a fleet of multi-role aircraft. These jack-of-all-trades aircraft can blast apart enemies on the ground and in the sky.

The A-10 can't dogfight. It's not stealthy. It's not supersonic.

"The Air Force never wanted the A-10, and they've been trying to get rid of it for years," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a website for military policy research. "They are manly men and they want jets that shoot down other jets — even though the last time they had an ace was Vietnam."
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The idea is that <the A-10's replacement, the F-35 fighter> can take off and land on runways and aircraft carriers, as well as hover like a helicopter. No single fighter aircraft has had all those capabilities. And it is expensive. At $35,200, the F-35's cost per flying hour is twice as much as the A-10's, according to the Government Accountability Office. Though few believe the F-35 will ultimately be able to provide close-air support as well as the A-10, the F-35 certainly falls under the Air Force's definition of "multi-role."

Therein lies the dilemma, said Todd Harrison, a defense analyst for the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington, D.C. If budgets are going to be cut severely, where are the cuts going to come from: expensive new weapons that can carry out more missions, or aging, less-complex weapons?


Not to mention: can the F-35 really do the job, or is it so bloated and gold-plated from all the things it's supposed to be able to do that it's mediocre at the things it'll actually be doing?

But it's fresh money for contractors, not just a spare parts and update program.
Add that to the fact that it's an Air Force plane doing an Army job, and you see what it's up against.

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This is going to upset the US Army the most MrScorpio Nov 2013 #1
Correct... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #8
This is one wild looking aircraft. JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #2
dumb move ragemage Nov 2013 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #44
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #47
Wow, interesting post. chknltl Nov 2013 #49
It appears as though Milton has gone the way of the Dodo bird Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #51
Was it my breath? chknltl Nov 2013 #53
Just picture a drone Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #4
During the cold war, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #5
Part Air Force culture, part overemphasis on "multirole" JHB Nov 2013 #37
As a tanker, I have a certain affection and respect for the "tanker's friend", the Warthog. Aristus Nov 2013 #6
Tanks are next zipplewrath Nov 2013 #24
That's an interesting idea. Aristus Nov 2013 #26
Still deployed. Still busting Taliban ass. bluedeathray Nov 2013 #7
Last I checked, the Taliban don't have tanks tina tron Nov 2013 #11
The Taliban would occasionally capture tanks from the Soviets during their war then. Aristus Nov 2013 #12
You don't know what you're talking about. bluedeathray Nov 2013 #15
Wow. That was rather vicious of you. And completely unnecessary. Aristus Nov 2013 #19
I think you're mis-analyzing the post bluedeathray Nov 2013 #25
Wow, I didn't realize being in favor of retiring the A10 was tantamount to supporting the Taliban NuclearDem Nov 2013 #28
I was responding to the rah rah aspect of the reply bluedeathray Nov 2013 #33
I'm sorry... NeoGreen Nov 2013 #39
Please allow me to apologize bluedeathray Nov 2013 #50
If I had to choose one aircraft to keep tech3149 Nov 2013 #9
Bravo. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #10
See my post above. Aristus Nov 2013 #13
You are wrong. bluedeathray Nov 2013 #17
Then it's time to come home from Kabul. Aristus Nov 2013 #21
Man, it's PAST time to come home bluedeathray Nov 2013 #31
Thank you for your post. Aristus Nov 2013 #32
Thank you for your insight. nt bluedeathray Nov 2013 #34
"In today's high-intensity, close-combat..." Chan790 Nov 2013 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #45
That and you need to knock out about half the aircraft before it feels uncomfortable Posteritatis Nov 2013 #54
Another feature of the A-10 is that it is extremely quiet at low speed PeoViejo Nov 2013 #60
The Air Force always hated the Warthog. bluedigger Nov 2013 #14
It was fun to use in Battlefield 3... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #16
I got targeted by one. Damn scary. lastlib Nov 2013 #18
Tough as nails... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #20
They built the aircraft AROUND the gun! A HERETIC I AM Nov 2013 #57
Dammit! We need more P-38's, too (poster): grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #22
I was a Crash Fire and Rescue Firefighter in the Air Force Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #23
Good God, don't let any of the Bones pilots hear you say that. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #29
They are fun to watch Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #38
I'd rather get rid of the B-1s before the A-10. MicaelS Nov 2013 #35
The biggest problem with this plane Turbineguy Nov 2013 #27
Incredibly bad idea. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #30
Killing the Warthog is strike three... catnhatnh Nov 2013 #36
They can't be made anymore. clffrdjk Nov 2013 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #46
Here's an idea: get rid of the B-1 instead JHB Nov 2013 #40
They're a major part of the local air guard's mission IDemo Nov 2013 #43
Does it still use depleted uranium rounds? chknltl Nov 2013 #48
The Gau-8 can fire other types of 30mm Ammunition PeoViejo Nov 2013 #55
Yes, I knew it could but i am concerned about the DU rounds chknltl Nov 2013 #56
That's an issue with the command structure PeoViejo Nov 2013 #58
I fully agree chknltl Nov 2013 #59
The Air Force wanted to get rid of the A-10 before the first Gulf War Gothmog Nov 2013 #52
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