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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
153. "Even when Democrats win, conservatives claim that their ideology is still dominant"
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:48 PM
Nov 2013

See: http://mediamatters.org/research/progmaj/

Obama supported single payer and a public option. As I recall Hillarycare was a similar model to Obamacare. I don't remember her pushing for single payer during the campaign.

But Americans are very far to the left of the both of them, they don't want the endless wars, they want prosecution of banksters, and war criminals, they want medicare for all, they want to tax the rich, they don't want chained-CPI, they want to strengthen benefits, etc etc etc.

The statement that America is a center-right country is nothing but a right wing meme.

What American Majority Wants: Polls

Along with the polling data on the The American Majority Project’s polling page, here is some info from recent polls:

Infrastructure investment:

Democracy Corps, November 2012:

52 percent agree that “we should invest now in infrastructure, education and technology, and re-hiring teachers and firefighters to get people back to work to make our country stronger in the long-term.”

Washington Post/ABC News, September 2012:

52 percent agreed that “spending money on projects like roads, bridges and technology development” was a better way for the government to create jobs than tax cuts.

YouGov, Dec 2012:

43 percent said President Obama’s plan for $50 billion in immediate new infrastructure spending was a “good idea;A only 28 percent said it was a bad idea.

NBC, Feb 2011:

71% percent of all respondents support Obama’s plan to spend $53 billion on high-speed rail and $30 billion on a national infrastructure bank.

Washington Post/Kaiser Family Foundation, August 2012:

63 percent believe that “additional spending on roads, bridges, and other public works projects” would help, not hurt, the economy.

Clarus Research Group, conducted for the Association of Equipment Manufacturers, December 2012:

77% percent believe the infrastructure in their state and throughout America “is in serious need of rebuilding and modernizing,” and 68% percent agree we need to make investments to build up our infrastructure to compete with foreign countries that are doing so.
Modernizing infrastructure is seen as “both a safety and economic issue” by 90% of voters nationwide.
A solid majority (61%) say the best way to pay for infrastructure improvements is to “use a combination of
funding sources such as some additional tax revenues, user fees and private investment.
84% of voters believe that “If the United States can afford to spend billions of dollars rebuilding the
infrastructure in foreign countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan, we can afford to do the same here at home.”
68% of voters nationwide say that the United States needs to make investments to build up our infrastructure
to compete with foreign countries that are doing so.

Carbon tax, oil companies, alternatives:

Yale Project on Climate Change Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication, November, 2011:

90 percent of Americans say developing sources of clean energy should be a very high (30%), high (35%), or medium (25%) priority for the president and Congress, including 82 percent of registered Republicans, 91 percent of Independents, and 97 percent of Democrats.
65 percent of Americans support a revenue neutral carbon tax that would “help create jobs and decrease pollution,” including majorities of registered Republicans (51%), Independents (69%), and Democrats (77%).
Likewise, 60 percent of Americans support a $10 per ton carbon tax if the revenue were used to reduce federal income taxes, even when told this would “slightly increase the cost of many things you buy, including food, clothing, and electricity.” This policy is supported by 48 percent of registered Republicans, 50 percent of Independents, and 74 percent of Democrats.
49 percent of Americans support a revenue neutral carbon tax if the revenue was instead returned to each American family equally as an annual check. Only 44 percent support this policy if the revenues were instead used to pay down the national debt.
69 percent of Americans oppose federal subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, including 67 percent of registered Republicans, 80 percent of Independents, and 68 percent of Democrats.
54 percent of Americans oppose subsidies to the ethanol industry to make fuel from corn, including 56 percent of registered Republicans, 65 percent of Independents, and 49 percent of Democrats.
85 percent of Americans (including 76% of registered Republicans, 83% of Independents, and 90% of Democrats) say that protecting the environment either improves economic growth and provides new jobs (54%), or has no effect (31%). Only 15 percent say environmental protection reduces economic growth and costs jobs.

Taxes:

Hart Research, February 2013:

66% say that the richest 2% should pay more in taxes. 64% say large corporations should pay more in taxes.
Only 28% of voters believe that the fiscal cliff bill passed on New Year’s Day raised taxes on the rich enough, while more than twice as many (59%) say that we still need to do more.
66% say close loopholes and limit deductions for wealthy individuals to reduce the budget deficit and make public investments. 23% want to reduce tax rates.

TIPP/Investor’s Business Daily Poll, April, 2012:

51% say tax capital gains same rate as income vs 35% say keep current low rate.

Rasmussen (!), November 2012:

57 % of voters say they agree with the president’s proposal to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 per year. 35% oppose that move.

Quinnipiac University, December 2012:

65% of voters back increased taxes for Americans making more than $250,000 a year, 31 percent oppose.
Voters said a “no-taxes” pledge isn’t a good idea, 85-10 percent.

Also

Voters overwhelmingly oppose cutting Medicaid spending, 70-25 percent.
Voters oppose gradually raising the Medicare eligibility age, 51-44 percent.

Jobs:

Gallup, November 2012:

95% say restoring the job market is a top priority.

Public Policy Polling, November 2012:

49 % say President Obama’s mandate following his reelection is to focus on jobs. 22% say the president’s mandate involved reducing the debt.
36% said that the president was tasked with striking a compromise with congressional Republicans.

Assist those in need:

Food Action and Research Center, various polls:

“The opposition to cutting food stamps crossed party lines: 92 percent of Democrats, 74 percent of Independents, and 63 percent of Republicans say this is the wrong way to reduce spending.” this amounts to 72% of all voters who think food stamps are a positive thing for the country
“Only nine percent of those polled said they would be more likely to support a candidate who favors cutting funds for the food stamp program; half said they would be less likely.”
“Opposition to food stamp cuts is even more overwhelming than in polling data FRAC released in November 2010, when 71 percent said it was the wrong way to cut spending.”
“Voters are broadly concerned about the nation’s hunger problem: 81 percent say that low-income families and children not being able to afford enough food to eat is a serious problem.”

Hart Research for AFL-CIO. November 7, 2012.

88% of respondents favor allowing Medicare to negotiate drug policies.

Other:

Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2013:

61% of Americans are not willing to see any cuts to public education.
Only 21% of Americans favor major reductions in Unemployment insurance

Gallup, December 2010:

66% of Americans supported the extension of unemployment insurance in 2010
http://ourfuture.org/20130315/back-to-work-budget-vs-ryanrepublican-budget-which-reflects-polls-and-election-results


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Love me some Bernie... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #1
he's not running to win- should he run. He's running to push cali Nov 2013 #16
great...but I will still vote for Hillary cause she is going to be the first woman VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #17
if a woman is all that counts to you, go root for Palin cali Nov 2013 #31
I vote for Democrats...I want to BEAT the Republicans...particularly the men... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #35
I get you. To you it's one big partisan game cali Nov 2013 #42
Oh I don't funny that I do post links often to support my contentions. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #48
Says you.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #65
You really consider Hillary NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #111
Yes and I consider myself one too...Do you still consider Obama one? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #114
Actually, NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #115
Your "consideration" duly noted and dually wrong. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #116
Actually, I'm against ALL Republicans and their policies NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #117
Yeah well.....you would gladly trade a Blue Dog for your nutcase Virginia Foxx VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #154
Lol, you've GOT to be kidding. Unless you think Independents and Democrats are in love with sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #127
The senate would miss him, certainly Scootaloo Nov 2013 #2
I love him dearly, but ann--- Nov 2013 #3
He could do a lot of good in the primaries, forcing the mainstream leftward. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #5
Yes, and maybe open the eyes of some voters too. progressoid Nov 2013 #6
I think opening the eyes of voters is the main thing dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #12
Well, if everyone thinks like that NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #112
"All he needs to be viable is your vote." dotymed Nov 2013 #121
You can bet that on this site he'll be NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #124
Sadly, you are right. dotymed Nov 2013 #128
"If you can't run ON issues and specifics, woo me with science Nov 2013 #133
So, you don't think Obama could have been elected had he campaigned on NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #135
The West Wing MyshkinCommaPrince Nov 2013 #4
Bernie! otherone Nov 2013 #7
Wouldn't that be AWESOME?! tblue Nov 2013 #15
I wouldn't hold my breath. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #18
On Friday's Thom Hartmann show the senator made similar comments. alp227 Nov 2013 #8
He's got the right issues. And he's also right that... polichick Nov 2013 #9
Good. He really is "not as bad" as the Repug or 3rd Way Dem candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #10
but he can't beat VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #20
Probably not. But, he's still better than the usual 3rd Way "not as bad" candidates we get from Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #24
but at least they can win... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #25
So, if the Dems want the votes that Sanders might get..they should run a leftist candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #26
The Dems won't win that way.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #36
Then they should blame themselves not Sanders. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #39
WTF? It won't happen...as I said. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #43
Really? You think the candidate who ran as a centrist in 2008 jeff47 Nov 2013 #54
Where did I say that? I do note that this is a Democratic forum however. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #62
You seem to not understand basic terminology. jeff47 Nov 2013 #71
No progressive was used by Liberals who were afraid of the word Liberal... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #74
And as I said below, calling myself Santa doesn't make be a jolly man in a red suit. jeff47 Nov 2013 #77
Whatever...I have been here long enough I don't need your directions... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #78
Sure, since you appear to be getting paid by the post. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #80
I wish! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #82
So it's an hourly gig then? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #108
Not a "gig" at all.....would that it was... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #136
You don't seem to know the word Progressive... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #63
That's because it's the label used by cowards unwilling to call themselves "liberal". (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #68
You do know there are quite a few Progressive Dems around DU that won't VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #91
Then they should stop running away from the word "liberal" jeff47 Nov 2013 #107
Speak for yourself. dotymed Nov 2013 #122
Words change meaning over time jeff47 Nov 2013 #123
Thanks Jeff. dotymed Nov 2013 #129
that word change took an act of Congress Jeff. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #137
I get the desire to win... Veilex Nov 2013 #57
This is not just winning....its NOT LOSING! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #64
Winning is pointless if you sell out. Veilex Nov 2013 #84
winning is only pointless to the losers.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #92
Yes it is... thats why winning is only worth while if your not a corporate sell out. Veilex Nov 2013 #96
So you would rather have.... OH say a George W Bush redux... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #98
Your premise is false... it assumes we can't win AND keep our ideals. Veilex Nov 2013 #102
It means....WE can LOSE...your premise that we can't is wrong... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #138
Where did I say "we cant" lose? Veilex Nov 2013 #142
So we are only supposed to have offense....but no defense??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #143
"So we are only supposed to have offense....but no defense???" Veilex Nov 2013 #144
You don't get to determine....full stop! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #145
"You are being myopic if you do" Hardly... You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts. Veilex Nov 2013 #146
So who do we have with a higher approval rating? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #147
"So who do we have with a higher approval rating?" Veilex Nov 2013 #149
Do you understand it... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #151
So you think you're entitled to a specific response... Veilex Nov 2013 #152
It sure as hell doesn't say much for HC that HappyMe Nov 2013 #150
Don't misunderstand me, I want us to win... however... Veilex Nov 2013 #99
baloney...ANY democrat is better than a Republican.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #100
I wish I could agree with that, I realy do. Veilex Nov 2013 #103
I would STILL vote for one of them over ANY Republican... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #104
Understandable... Veilex Nov 2013 #105
You're a socialist who won't vote for a socialist? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #86
Socialist Democrat my dear...if Bernie ran as a Democrat...I would vote for him VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #93
They win because the NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #134
And Obama couldn't beat Hillary either, lol grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #109
and neither are hugely far left Candidates are they? LOL VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #139
Obama won because he ran far to the left of Hill. Fact is, Americans are far to the left of Obama:) grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #140
this is ridiculous....what are you saying Hillary is fascist? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #141
"Even when Democrats win, conservatives claim that their ideology is still dominant" grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #153
good one. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #97
I don't think he'd be running as a Democrat. PDittie Nov 2013 #11
Potentially great idea warrenswil Nov 2013 #13
See, here's the thing Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #14
now here's the thing: Bernie should he run isn't running to win but to push issues cali Nov 2013 #19
can he beat Chris Christie? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #21
Who, Brown? Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #23
Not name recognition much further than the DU forum. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #32
That's such nonsense Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #41
Christie is just my stand in for a Republican at the moment... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #49
So you're proposing Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #53
You actually want to bring up Virginia? Remind me....who did they elect as Governor? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #72
Yup, way to dodge the issue Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #88
keep telling yourself that buddy! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #87
do you have a problem grasping a simple declarative sentence? cali Nov 2013 #28
Do you not understand that is just symbolism? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #33
a) it's not just symbolism and b) you directed a post to me cali Nov 2013 #37
And he cannot beat Chris Christie either.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #40
and you know that how? Oh, that's right, you fucking well don't. cali Nov 2013 #44
because I am a realist. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #46
You declared Clinton a liberal. That's not being a realist. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #55
No I didn't....she called herself a Progressive... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #59
If I call myself Santa, does that make it true? jeff47 Nov 2013 #60
She called herself that before anyone on DU identified themselves with the moniker.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #61
So she can incinerate a paper tiger. Ooooooo. jeff47 Nov 2013 #67
Or any Republican.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #69
So, were you lying when you said you were against "purging" jeff47 Nov 2013 #75
I am talking about people not candidates...try to keep up... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #76
And you are trying to purge discussion of any other candidates. jeff47 Nov 2013 #79
I am supporting the Democratic front runner VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #83
If there are no announced candidates, there are no front runners. jeff47 Nov 2013 #106
Can Hillary? D23MIURG23 Nov 2013 #70
100% yes:) grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #110
Here's a few I can think of geardaddy Nov 2013 #45
I wouldn't be too sure about that dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #95
If he does enter the race, I will have to change my tagline graphic. silvershadow Nov 2013 #22
hello election 2000. MFM008 Nov 2013 #27
oh bullshit. you are clueless about bernie. he would never play that role cali Nov 2013 #29
EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #34
bzzzt fail again. Bernie is my Senator. Before that he was my rep. cali Nov 2013 #38
When did I say I did? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #66
sigh. you have trouble understanding... cali Nov 2013 #73
That is great news. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #30
Puleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzze, Sen Sanders! ReRe Nov 2013 #47
The Middle you say... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #50
So how much do you get paid per post? jeff47 Nov 2013 #51
Ha! I was thinking that, too. djean111 Nov 2013 #56
I don't worry 'bout her too much jeff47 Nov 2013 #58
k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #52
I would so vote for him over Hillary Phlem Nov 2013 #81
Okay, so what happens here? tavalon Nov 2013 #85
As a Democrat, I would seriously consider him; as an Independant, I'd remember Nader Rowdyboy Nov 2013 #89
Well, that would certainly make things interesting! quinnox Nov 2013 #94
YES!!! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #101
DU's "centrists" hate Bernie more than any Republican. Why? He's an actual threat to their power. Romulox Nov 2013 #113
Please point out any posting that exhibits hatred of Bernie Sanders... brooklynite Nov 2013 #118
Check out the *other* thread on this subject for some very anxious "centrists". nt Romulox Nov 2013 #119
...which you couldn't be bothered to provide a link to? brooklynite Nov 2013 #120
'He can't win' is not a "factual assessment" Union Scribe Nov 2013 #130
Its an opinion based on the assessment of the writer...and still isn't hatred... brooklynite Nov 2013 #131
I don't think there are any such posters treestar Nov 2013 #132
If Bernie runs, I will vote for him in the primaries. man4allcats Nov 2013 #125
Good News! JDPriestly Nov 2013 #126
He could win if Democrats didn't split the vote by voting for moderates. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #148
kick woo me with science Dec 2013 #155
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