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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Open To 2016 Presidential Run [View all]grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)153. "Even when Democrats win, conservatives claim that their ideology is still dominant"
See: http://mediamatters.org/research/progmaj/
Obama supported single payer and a public option. As I recall Hillarycare was a similar model to Obamacare. I don't remember her pushing for single payer during the campaign.
But Americans are very far to the left of the both of them, they don't want the endless wars, they want prosecution of banksters, and war criminals, they want medicare for all, they want to tax the rich, they don't want chained-CPI, they want to strengthen benefits, etc etc etc.
The statement that America is a center-right country is nothing but a right wing meme.
What American Majority Wants: Polls
Along with the polling data on the The American Majority Projects polling page, here is some info from recent polls:
Infrastructure investment:
Democracy Corps, November 2012:
52 percent agree that we should invest now in infrastructure, education and technology, and re-hiring teachers and firefighters to get people back to work to make our country stronger in the long-term.
Washington Post/ABC News, September 2012:
52 percent agreed that spending money on projects like roads, bridges and technology development was a better way for the government to create jobs than tax cuts.
YouGov, Dec 2012:
43 percent said President Obamas plan for $50 billion in immediate new infrastructure spending was a good idea;A only 28 percent said it was a bad idea.
NBC, Feb 2011:
71% percent of all respondents support Obamas plan to spend $53 billion on high-speed rail and $30 billion on a national infrastructure bank.
Washington Post/Kaiser Family Foundation, August 2012:
63 percent believe that additional spending on roads, bridges, and other public works projects would help, not hurt, the economy.
Clarus Research Group, conducted for the Association of Equipment Manufacturers, December 2012:
77% percent believe the infrastructure in their state and throughout America is in serious need of rebuilding and modernizing, and 68% percent agree we need to make investments to build up our infrastructure to compete with foreign countries that are doing so.
Modernizing infrastructure is seen as both a safety and economic issue by 90% of voters nationwide.
A solid majority (61%) say the best way to pay for infrastructure improvements is to use a combination of
funding sources such as some additional tax revenues, user fees and private investment.
84% of voters believe that If the United States can afford to spend billions of dollars rebuilding the
infrastructure in foreign countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan, we can afford to do the same here at home.
68% of voters nationwide say that the United States needs to make investments to build up our infrastructure
to compete with foreign countries that are doing so.
Carbon tax, oil companies, alternatives:
Yale Project on Climate Change Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication, November, 2011:
90 percent of Americans say developing sources of clean energy should be a very high (30%), high (35%), or medium (25%) priority for the president and Congress, including 82 percent of registered Republicans, 91 percent of Independents, and 97 percent of Democrats.
65 percent of Americans support a revenue neutral carbon tax that would help create jobs and decrease pollution, including majorities of registered Republicans (51%), Independents (69%), and Democrats (77%).
Likewise, 60 percent of Americans support a $10 per ton carbon tax if the revenue were used to reduce federal income taxes, even when told this would slightly increase the cost of many things you buy, including food, clothing, and electricity. This policy is supported by 48 percent of registered Republicans, 50 percent of Independents, and 74 percent of Democrats.
49 percent of Americans support a revenue neutral carbon tax if the revenue was instead returned to each American family equally as an annual check. Only 44 percent support this policy if the revenues were instead used to pay down the national debt.
69 percent of Americans oppose federal subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, including 67 percent of registered Republicans, 80 percent of Independents, and 68 percent of Democrats.
54 percent of Americans oppose subsidies to the ethanol industry to make fuel from corn, including 56 percent of registered Republicans, 65 percent of Independents, and 49 percent of Democrats.
85 percent of Americans (including 76% of registered Republicans, 83% of Independents, and 90% of Democrats) say that protecting the environment either improves economic growth and provides new jobs (54%), or has no effect (31%). Only 15 percent say environmental protection reduces economic growth and costs jobs.
Taxes:
Hart Research, February 2013:
66% say that the richest 2% should pay more in taxes. 64% say large corporations should pay more in taxes.
Only 28% of voters believe that the fiscal cliff bill passed on New Years Day raised taxes on the rich enough, while more than twice as many (59%) say that we still need to do more.
66% say close loopholes and limit deductions for wealthy individuals to reduce the budget deficit and make public investments. 23% want to reduce tax rates.
TIPP/Investors Business Daily Poll, April, 2012:
51% say tax capital gains same rate as income vs 35% say keep current low rate.
Rasmussen (!), November 2012:
57 % of voters say they agree with the presidents proposal to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 per year. 35% oppose that move.
Quinnipiac University, December 2012:
65% of voters back increased taxes for Americans making more than $250,000 a year, 31 percent oppose.
Voters said a no-taxes pledge isnt a good idea, 85-10 percent.
Also
Voters overwhelmingly oppose cutting Medicaid spending, 70-25 percent.
Voters oppose gradually raising the Medicare eligibility age, 51-44 percent.
Jobs:
Gallup, November 2012:
95% say restoring the job market is a top priority.
Public Policy Polling, November 2012:
49 % say President Obamas mandate following his reelection is to focus on jobs. 22% say the presidents mandate involved reducing the debt.
36% said that the president was tasked with striking a compromise with congressional Republicans.
Assist those in need:
Food Action and Research Center, various polls:
The opposition to cutting food stamps crossed party lines: 92 percent of Democrats, 74 percent of Independents, and 63 percent of Republicans say this is the wrong way to reduce spending. this amounts to 72% of all voters who think food stamps are a positive thing for the country
Only nine percent of those polled said they would be more likely to support a candidate who favors cutting funds for the food stamp program; half said they would be less likely.
Opposition to food stamp cuts is even more overwhelming than in polling data FRAC released in November 2010, when 71 percent said it was the wrong way to cut spending.
Voters are broadly concerned about the nations hunger problem: 81 percent say that low-income families and children not being able to afford enough food to eat is a serious problem.
Hart Research for AFL-CIO. November 7, 2012.
88% of respondents favor allowing Medicare to negotiate drug policies.
Other:
Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2013:
61% of Americans are not willing to see any cuts to public education.
Only 21% of Americans favor major reductions in Unemployment insurance
Gallup, December 2010:
66% of Americans supported the extension of unemployment insurance in 2010
http://ourfuture.org/20130315/back-to-work-budget-vs-ryanrepublican-budget-which-reflects-polls-and-election-results
Along with the polling data on the The American Majority Projects polling page, here is some info from recent polls:
Infrastructure investment:
Democracy Corps, November 2012:
52 percent agree that we should invest now in infrastructure, education and technology, and re-hiring teachers and firefighters to get people back to work to make our country stronger in the long-term.
Washington Post/ABC News, September 2012:
52 percent agreed that spending money on projects like roads, bridges and technology development was a better way for the government to create jobs than tax cuts.
YouGov, Dec 2012:
43 percent said President Obamas plan for $50 billion in immediate new infrastructure spending was a good idea;A only 28 percent said it was a bad idea.
NBC, Feb 2011:
71% percent of all respondents support Obamas plan to spend $53 billion on high-speed rail and $30 billion on a national infrastructure bank.
Washington Post/Kaiser Family Foundation, August 2012:
63 percent believe that additional spending on roads, bridges, and other public works projects would help, not hurt, the economy.
Clarus Research Group, conducted for the Association of Equipment Manufacturers, December 2012:
77% percent believe the infrastructure in their state and throughout America is in serious need of rebuilding and modernizing, and 68% percent agree we need to make investments to build up our infrastructure to compete with foreign countries that are doing so.
Modernizing infrastructure is seen as both a safety and economic issue by 90% of voters nationwide.
A solid majority (61%) say the best way to pay for infrastructure improvements is to use a combination of
funding sources such as some additional tax revenues, user fees and private investment.
84% of voters believe that If the United States can afford to spend billions of dollars rebuilding the
infrastructure in foreign countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan, we can afford to do the same here at home.
68% of voters nationwide say that the United States needs to make investments to build up our infrastructure
to compete with foreign countries that are doing so.
Carbon tax, oil companies, alternatives:
Yale Project on Climate Change Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication, November, 2011:
90 percent of Americans say developing sources of clean energy should be a very high (30%), high (35%), or medium (25%) priority for the president and Congress, including 82 percent of registered Republicans, 91 percent of Independents, and 97 percent of Democrats.
65 percent of Americans support a revenue neutral carbon tax that would help create jobs and decrease pollution, including majorities of registered Republicans (51%), Independents (69%), and Democrats (77%).
Likewise, 60 percent of Americans support a $10 per ton carbon tax if the revenue were used to reduce federal income taxes, even when told this would slightly increase the cost of many things you buy, including food, clothing, and electricity. This policy is supported by 48 percent of registered Republicans, 50 percent of Independents, and 74 percent of Democrats.
49 percent of Americans support a revenue neutral carbon tax if the revenue was instead returned to each American family equally as an annual check. Only 44 percent support this policy if the revenues were instead used to pay down the national debt.
69 percent of Americans oppose federal subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, including 67 percent of registered Republicans, 80 percent of Independents, and 68 percent of Democrats.
54 percent of Americans oppose subsidies to the ethanol industry to make fuel from corn, including 56 percent of registered Republicans, 65 percent of Independents, and 49 percent of Democrats.
85 percent of Americans (including 76% of registered Republicans, 83% of Independents, and 90% of Democrats) say that protecting the environment either improves economic growth and provides new jobs (54%), or has no effect (31%). Only 15 percent say environmental protection reduces economic growth and costs jobs.
Taxes:
Hart Research, February 2013:
66% say that the richest 2% should pay more in taxes. 64% say large corporations should pay more in taxes.
Only 28% of voters believe that the fiscal cliff bill passed on New Years Day raised taxes on the rich enough, while more than twice as many (59%) say that we still need to do more.
66% say close loopholes and limit deductions for wealthy individuals to reduce the budget deficit and make public investments. 23% want to reduce tax rates.
TIPP/Investors Business Daily Poll, April, 2012:
51% say tax capital gains same rate as income vs 35% say keep current low rate.
Rasmussen (!), November 2012:
57 % of voters say they agree with the presidents proposal to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 per year. 35% oppose that move.
Quinnipiac University, December 2012:
65% of voters back increased taxes for Americans making more than $250,000 a year, 31 percent oppose.
Voters said a no-taxes pledge isnt a good idea, 85-10 percent.
Also
Voters overwhelmingly oppose cutting Medicaid spending, 70-25 percent.
Voters oppose gradually raising the Medicare eligibility age, 51-44 percent.
Jobs:
Gallup, November 2012:
95% say restoring the job market is a top priority.
Public Policy Polling, November 2012:
49 % say President Obamas mandate following his reelection is to focus on jobs. 22% say the presidents mandate involved reducing the debt.
36% said that the president was tasked with striking a compromise with congressional Republicans.
Assist those in need:
Food Action and Research Center, various polls:
The opposition to cutting food stamps crossed party lines: 92 percent of Democrats, 74 percent of Independents, and 63 percent of Republicans say this is the wrong way to reduce spending. this amounts to 72% of all voters who think food stamps are a positive thing for the country
Only nine percent of those polled said they would be more likely to support a candidate who favors cutting funds for the food stamp program; half said they would be less likely.
Opposition to food stamp cuts is even more overwhelming than in polling data FRAC released in November 2010, when 71 percent said it was the wrong way to cut spending.
Voters are broadly concerned about the nations hunger problem: 81 percent say that low-income families and children not being able to afford enough food to eat is a serious problem.
Hart Research for AFL-CIO. November 7, 2012.
88% of respondents favor allowing Medicare to negotiate drug policies.
Other:
Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2013:
61% of Americans are not willing to see any cuts to public education.
Only 21% of Americans favor major reductions in Unemployment insurance
Gallup, December 2010:
66% of Americans supported the extension of unemployment insurance in 2010
http://ourfuture.org/20130315/back-to-work-budget-vs-ryanrepublican-budget-which-reflects-polls-and-election-results
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great...but I will still vote for Hillary cause she is going to be the first woman
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#17
I vote for Democrats...I want to BEAT the Republicans...particularly the men...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#35
Yeah well.....you would gladly trade a Blue Dog for your nutcase Virginia Foxx
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#154
Lol, you've GOT to be kidding. Unless you think Independents and Democrats are in love with
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#127
He could do a lot of good in the primaries, forcing the mainstream leftward.
Jackpine Radical
Nov 2013
#5
Good. He really is "not as bad" as the Repug or 3rd Way Dem candidates.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#10
Probably not. But, he's still better than the usual 3rd Way "not as bad" candidates we get from
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#24
So, if the Dems want the votes that Sanders might get..they should run a leftist candidate.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#26
Where did I say that? I do note that this is a Democratic forum however.
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#62
No progressive was used by Liberals who were afraid of the word Liberal...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#74
And as I said below, calling myself Santa doesn't make be a jolly man in a red suit.
jeff47
Nov 2013
#77
Whatever...I have been here long enough I don't need your directions...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#78
That's because it's the label used by cowards unwilling to call themselves "liberal". (nt)
jeff47
Nov 2013
#68
You do know there are quite a few Progressive Dems around DU that won't
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#91
Yes it is... thats why winning is only worth while if your not a corporate sell out.
Veilex
Nov 2013
#96
"You are being myopic if you do" Hardly... You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.
Veilex
Nov 2013
#146
Socialist Democrat my dear...if Bernie ran as a Democrat...I would vote for him
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#93
Obama won because he ran far to the left of Hill. Fact is, Americans are far to the left of Obama:)
grahamhgreen
Nov 2013
#140
"Even when Democrats win, conservatives claim that their ideology is still dominant"
grahamhgreen
Nov 2013
#153
now here's the thing: Bernie should he run isn't running to win but to push issues
cali
Nov 2013
#19
You actually want to bring up Virginia? Remind me....who did they elect as Governor?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#72
She called herself that before anyone on DU identified themselves with the moniker..
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2013
#61
As a Democrat, I would seriously consider him; as an Independant, I'd remember Nader
Rowdyboy
Nov 2013
#89
DU's "centrists" hate Bernie more than any Republican. Why? He's an actual threat to their power.
Romulox
Nov 2013
#113
Check out the *other* thread on this subject for some very anxious "centrists". nt
Romulox
Nov 2013
#119
Its an opinion based on the assessment of the writer...and still isn't hatred...
brooklynite
Nov 2013
#131
He could win if Democrats didn't split the vote by voting for moderates.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#148