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In reply to the discussion: Don Curtis, Parkland resident, on JFK assassination: "the posterior part of his head was blown out." [View all]Bolo Boffin
(23,872 posts)73. "(McClelland's) recollections... have remained consistent for over thirty years." You are wrong.
Perhaps you missed it when I replied to you here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4057467
Let's repeat the quote again, from page 407 of Reclaiming History:
When I called Dr. McClelland the following evening to discuss further one of the points he had made, he quickly told me he was glad I had called because "since we hung up last night, I've had some second thoughts about the exact location of the exit wound." Unlike the many conspiracy theorists (sic) who have exploited Dr. McClelland's obvious errors to their benefit, he told me, "I don't question the integrity of all the pathologists who disagree with me"... saying, for instance, that he and the three autopsy surgeons were "obviously looking at the same head and the same wound," but that the area on the head where they placed the wound differed because of "the different positions from which we viewed it and also because of the different interpretations of what we saw, which is normal."
I've italicized the part you need to pay attention to.
McClelland went on:
But he made a major concession in an effort to reconcile his position with (the autopsy surgeons). "I have to say that the sketch I first drew for Josiah Thompson's book a few years after the assassination was misleading. Since last night, I've been thinking that I placed the large hole in the president's head farther back than it really was, maybe. It may have been a bit more forward."
Michael Baden's accounting for why Parkland observers and others may have diverged from the official autopsy photographs and X-rays (which goes on to page 408 in Reclaiming History):
Since the thick growth of hair on Kennedy's head hadn't been shaved at Parkland, there's no way for the doctors to have seen the margins of the wound in the skin of the scalp. All they saw was the blood and brain tissue adhering to the hair. And that may have mostly been in the occipital area, because he was lying on his back and gravity would push his hair, blood, and brain tissue backward, so many of them probably assumed the exit wound was in the back of the head. But clearly, from the autopsy X-rays and photographs and the observations of the autopsy surgeons, the exit wound and defect was not in the occipital area. There was no defect or wound to the rear of Kennedy's head other than the entrance wound in the upper right part of his head.
In addition to this, there's the simple witness staring all of us in the face: the Zapruder film. The area in question is in view after the head shot. It's turned right toward the camera. There isn't the slightest indication of a gaping occipital region wound in the Zapruder film.
Dr. McClelland is an honorable and decent man. But he is mistaken. The autopsy pictures and X-rays show the reality of JFK's wounds. The HSCA has verified them as authentic: that they were taken of John F. Kennedy's body at his autopsy and that they were not tampered with. The head wound McClelland describes is not present in them.
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Don Curtis, Parkland resident, on JFK assassination: "the posterior part of his head was blown out." [View all]
Karmadillo
Nov 2013
OP
''So you can take that and stuff it up there where you get the rest of your ideas.''
Octafish
Nov 2013
#50
No, that's bullshit generated for the likes of you. For those interested in learning...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#53
Yeah, Posner is a liar, Bugliosi is a liar, the Warren Commission were liars, etc.
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#98
I saw a mist cloud of organic matter from front right of his head exploding
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#16
WARNING: GRAPHIC - Here is Zapruder frame 313. Ejecta goes FORWARD and upward.
cherokeeprogressive
Nov 2013
#21
I find the grassy knoll belief is rooted in a lack of physics understanding.
NutmegYankee
Nov 2013
#37
I'm obviously talking about the people who insist that explosives were used.
NutmegYankee
Nov 2013
#71
Looks like a shot right through the back bottom of the seat, slightly towards the rear bumper
Cronus Protagonist
Nov 2013
#76
In the video I saw, it showed a piece of his head/skull flying back onto the trunk of
polly7
Nov 2013
#9
The back of Kennedy's head did not explode. (Warning: graphic images.)
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#32
Clint Hill, the agent on the trunk says she was reaching for a piece of his skull
dflprincess
Nov 2013
#15
Yes, the Zapruder film shows Mrs Kennedy climbing onto the back of the car of retrieve something
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#23
JFK didn't have an entry and exit wound on his head. The bullet took a chunk off.
Dash87
Nov 2013
#10
That's what we have autopsies for - to establish under calm and measurable circumstances
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#42
Eyewitness accounts often disagree with each other and the autopsy results.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#63
So now you've moved from they're authenticated to it stands to reason that despite
Karmadillo
Nov 2013
#116
No, the photos and X-rays have been authenticated. I've not moved from that at all.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#117
"(McClelland's) recollections... have remained consistent for over thirty years." You are wrong.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#73
I assert it shouldn't even BE debated fifty years later. We have the technology that
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#103
You will only get the truth long after anyone who was alive at the time is long dead.
former9thward
Nov 2013
#94
The truth was known within an HOUR of the assassination. The police arrested the killer.
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#100
Exactly. There would never have been documents classified or held back from public view if LHO was
GoneFishin
Nov 2013
#105