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iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:08 PM Nov 2013

my libertarian-leaning republican friends answer to foodstamps [View all]

Last edited Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:22 PM - Edit history (2)

and drug testing.
was having a convo with an acquaintance about the consequences of drug testing people on assistance (and I brought up increased crime rate, folks in even worse health and still with their addiction, folks starving to feed their addiction.. and of course how the government should stay out of peoples bodies)...
he responded with the following , and I was just curious to see some of your reactions too it :

"No they should not starve. Food stamps should be replaced by a pallet of staple foods distributed weekly. Like beans, rice, vegetables, etc. Not a nebulous, semi-cash, tradeable commodity. In fact, the people receiving assistance should be responsible for distributing the foodstuffs, and if they show ability and/or ambition, they should be able to better themselves by promotion or advancement, to include competitive salary and benefits. Also politicians should be held accountable for every law that they pass, or has became law in the past. This includes insider trading laws, health care laws, perjury laws, defamation laws, etc. In fact if they break the law, the punishment should be more severe because they hold the public trust and represent not just themselves but the Citizens of their district or country. I personally am against any law passed that does not universally apply. (This practice creates a nobility and a peasantry class system that is appalling.)"

and yes, I know he misspelled tradable.. ill assume it was a typo on his part tho


EDIT: ive asked him to give me a detailed reply about where he thinks he lies on the political spectrum.. ill post an update when he replies
would hate to be mislabeling him.. so ill let him label himself


UPDATE :
he told me he considers himself a conservative republican, but that he does agree with some issues libertarians 'champion' (his words not mine lol )

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I would send this back to him... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #1
At least your libertarian friends don't want them to starve gollygee Nov 2013 #2
i know, right? iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #3
The two aren't mutually exclusive wercal Nov 2013 #14
Read this thread: gollygee Nov 2013 #21
You keep thinking in terms of somebody who is genuinely hungry wercal Nov 2013 #25
That article is about WIC gollygee Nov 2013 #27
Read it - its about both wercal Nov 2013 #38
The fraud is small in terms of the national cost of SNAP Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #29
I read that story. catnhatnh Nov 2013 #40
If you read the article, its very clear. The store owners were the ones arrested wercal Nov 2013 #41
then maybe iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #45
I don't recall advocating drug testing wercal Nov 2013 #46
That type of fraud is why many vendors were only sanctioned. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #26
USDA estimate is a 1% trafficking/fraud rate, substantial down from 20 years ago when it was 4%. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #4
not everyone with an EBT card iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #13
He's advocating for socialist distribution of basic foodstuffs? Orrex Nov 2013 #5
maybe he's a socialist libertarian? booley Nov 2013 #9
as i told someone else iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #10
Good call Orrex Nov 2013 #15
Let them vote Red, I say! Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #34
And he misused palette for its homonym. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #6
I think he wrote what he meant. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #23
If so, that's substantially more food than a SNAP card can buy. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #33
So food is not a "tradable commodity"........? Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #7
One thing you can be sure of with anyone who self-identifies as "libertarian..." TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #16
A habit which, very annoyingly, they accuse liberals of JHB Nov 2013 #22
Classic projection.... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #30
Actually, your friend's suggestion bluedeathray Nov 2013 #8
No it doesn't do anything effectively. upaloopa Nov 2013 #31
Taxes don't support food stamps and distribution? bluedeathray Nov 2013 #35
Taking it out of the Federal Government lets upaloopa Nov 2013 #32
Your willingness to attempt to pigeonhole people bluedeathray Nov 2013 #36
I don't value your opinion I don't care how I look to you upaloopa Nov 2013 #42
Right, as I said, small minded. bluedeathray Nov 2013 #47
+1000 We would go back to a not-so recent time of rampant malnutrition Tanuki Nov 2013 #37
So they want to create a brand new Government agency designed to distribute food to the poor Johonny Nov 2013 #11
Is he willing to pay higher taxes for that? JHB Nov 2013 #17
Politicians are held accountable treestar Nov 2013 #18
It seems like circular logic to me. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #19
Handing out specific commodities was tried decades ago and was replaced by food stamps and Tanuki Nov 2013 #20
Food spoils EBT cards don't upaloopa Nov 2013 #28
Not all food spoils easily... Soylent is coming... TampaAnimusVortex Nov 2013 #39
why did your friend not consider cutting corporate welfare? grasswire Nov 2013 #43
I always thought the libertarian alternative to food stamps was not food stamps. nt EOTE Nov 2013 #44
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