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gollygee

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2. At least your libertarian friends don't want them to starve

Reply to iamthebandfanman (Original post)

Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:11 PM

Nov 2013

because the response I've gotten from libertarian tea party types is yeah, if they're too lazy to earn their own money, they can starve. Even when I say there aren't enough jobs for everyone so some people simply are going to be unable to work - and that lots of people on food stamps have jobs anyway because jobs don't pay enough to live in. They don't care.

People who get food stamps get very little, and there isn't very much fraud. We should be worrying about the issue of poverty rather than the tiny amount of fraud in food stamps.

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my libertarian-leaning republican friends answer to foodstamps [View all] iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 OP

I would send this back to him... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #1

At least your libertarian friends don't want them to starve gollygee Nov 2013 #2

i know, right? iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #3

The two aren't mutually exclusive wercal Nov 2013 #14

Read this thread: gollygee Nov 2013 #21

You keep thinking in terms of somebody who is genuinely hungry wercal Nov 2013 #25

That article is about WIC gollygee Nov 2013 #27

Read it - its about both wercal Nov 2013 #38

The fraud is small in terms of the national cost of SNAP Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #29

I read that story. catnhatnh Nov 2013 #40

If you read the article, its very clear. The store owners were the ones arrested wercal Nov 2013 #41

then maybe iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #45

I don't recall advocating drug testing wercal Nov 2013 #46

That type of fraud is why many vendors were only sanctioned. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #26

USDA estimate is a 1% trafficking/fraud rate, substantial down from 20 years ago when it was 4%. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #4

not everyone with an EBT card iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #13

He's advocating for socialist distribution of basic foodstuffs? Orrex Nov 2013 #5

maybe he's a socialist libertarian? booley Nov 2013 #9

as i told someone else iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #10

Good call Orrex Nov 2013 #15

Let them vote Red, I say! Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #34

And he misused palette for its homonym. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #6

I think he wrote what he meant. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #23

If so, that's substantially more food than a SNAP card can buy. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #33

So food is not a "tradable commodity"........? Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #7

One thing you can be sure of with anyone who self-identifies as "libertarian..." TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #16

A habit which, very annoyingly, they accuse liberals of JHB Nov 2013 #22

Classic projection.... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #30

Actually, your friend's suggestion bluedeathray Nov 2013 #8

No it doesn't do anything effectively. upaloopa Nov 2013 #31

Taxes don't support food stamps and distribution? bluedeathray Nov 2013 #35

Taking it out of the Federal Government lets upaloopa Nov 2013 #32

Your willingness to attempt to pigeonhole people bluedeathray Nov 2013 #36

I don't value your opinion I don't care how I look to you upaloopa Nov 2013 #42

Right, as I said, small minded. bluedeathray Nov 2013 #47

+1000 We would go back to a not-so recent time of rampant malnutrition Tanuki Nov 2013 #37

So they want to create a brand new Government agency designed to distribute food to the poor Johonny Nov 2013 #11

Is he willing to pay higher taxes for that? JHB Nov 2013 #17

Politicians are held accountable treestar Nov 2013 #18

It seems like circular logic to me. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #19

Handing out specific commodities was tried decades ago and was replaced by food stamps and Tanuki Nov 2013 #20

Food spoils EBT cards don't upaloopa Nov 2013 #28

Not all food spoils easily... Soylent is coming... TampaAnimusVortex Nov 2013 #39

why did your friend not consider cutting corporate welfare? grasswire Nov 2013 #43

I always thought the libertarian alternative to food stamps was not food stamps. nt EOTE Nov 2013 #44