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(116,464 posts)7. The rules have changed: Reid pulls trigger on nuclear option
The rules have changed: Reid pulls trigger on nuclear option
by Joan McCarter
Kaboom! Republicans dared Harry Reid to do it, and he just did, finally. The Senate has voted to change the filibuster rules, 52-48. Democrats Carl Levin, Joe Manchin, Mark Pryor voted against changing the rule.
The new rule that will allow just a simple majority vote for all nominees expect for the Supreme Court. For the remainder of this Congress, President Obama's nominees will only need 51 votes to be appointed. What that means immediately is that, while the Republicans continue to play games to delay action on the Defense Authorization, the nominations of Patricia Millett, Nina Pillard, and Roberts Wilkins to the D.C. Circuit can move forward. So can the nomination of Rep. Mel Watt to the federal housing agency. In other words, the Senate can start functioning again. At least on nominations.
This will likely just further enrage Republicans, making them even more obnoxious and obstructionist. So next stop, ending the filibuster on legislation. That will probably happen at the beginning of the next Congress, January, 2015.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/21/1257318/-The-rules-have-changed
by Joan McCarter
Kaboom! Republicans dared Harry Reid to do it, and he just did, finally. The Senate has voted to change the filibuster rules, 52-48. Democrats Carl Levin, Joe Manchin, Mark Pryor voted against changing the rule.
The new rule that will allow just a simple majority vote for all nominees expect for the Supreme Court. For the remainder of this Congress, President Obama's nominees will only need 51 votes to be appointed. What that means immediately is that, while the Republicans continue to play games to delay action on the Defense Authorization, the nominations of Patricia Millett, Nina Pillard, and Roberts Wilkins to the D.C. Circuit can move forward. So can the nomination of Rep. Mel Watt to the federal housing agency. In other words, the Senate can start functioning again. At least on nominations.
This will likely just further enrage Republicans, making them even more obnoxious and obstructionist. So next stop, ending the filibuster on legislation. That will probably happen at the beginning of the next Congress, January, 2015.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/21/1257318/-The-rules-have-changed
Almost Anticlimactic
David Kurtz
I don't know what I expected. Maybe the phrase "nuclear option" conjured some cataclysmic moment on the Senate floor when Harry Reid presses a cartoonish red button and Mitch McConnell, tie askew and hair mussed, shouts an anguished "Noooooo" while lunging to stop him.
But there's no such dramatics on the Senate floor. Not even anyone raising a cane.
Instead, through a series of votes the Senate rules are being changed, one aye (or nay) at a time. Real anger among Republicans, don't get me wrong. Real historic changes to be sure.
But the threat of the filibuster changes, made endlessly for years, carried such implications of high drama and momentousness, that the rather mundane way it actually happens seems almost anticlimactic.
It makes you wonder why it didn't happen sooner.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/filibuster-senate-rules-nuclear-option
David Kurtz
I don't know what I expected. Maybe the phrase "nuclear option" conjured some cataclysmic moment on the Senate floor when Harry Reid presses a cartoonish red button and Mitch McConnell, tie askew and hair mussed, shouts an anguished "Noooooo" while lunging to stop him.
But there's no such dramatics on the Senate floor. Not even anyone raising a cane.
Instead, through a series of votes the Senate rules are being changed, one aye (or nay) at a time. Real anger among Republicans, don't get me wrong. Real historic changes to be sure.
But the threat of the filibuster changes, made endlessly for years, carried such implications of high drama and momentousness, that the rather mundane way it actually happens seems almost anticlimactic.
It makes you wonder why it didn't happen sooner.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/filibuster-senate-rules-nuclear-option
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Do you think Reid is capable of "ramming anything through" in the coming 3 years?
Cal33
Nov 2013
#55
Well, hell! If the GOP ever DOES take the Senate back, we'll just change it back for 'em--
lastlib
Nov 2013
#107
We'll still have the White House. And demographics favor a (D) White House in the future.
Hosnon
Nov 2013
#71
Well, I'm glad you pointed that out. I've been listening to all the progressive
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#119
There is a 200 year history of using it. It should be preserved. We'll just have to agree to
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#130
You said that we had *never* used the filibuster. I provided information that showed we did.
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#134
I took that to mean that we have never used it. If you meant it another way, then
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#136
Apparently it is a requirement for Dems from Arkansas and Louisiana to act like
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#73
Yes, that would be safe to assume. To shut down this President and the majority of Americans
mountain grammy
Nov 2013
#92
It's far past time for all the shit 'pukes have been creating to be shoved up their collective arses
indepat
Nov 2013
#72
Hopefully, now that they've got their feet wet, the can kill the rest of the filibuster too AND
grahamhgreen
Nov 2013
#102
Now, where will the Conservatives in our Party hide?! Can't hide behind the always-obstructive GOP
blkmusclmachine
Nov 2013
#111