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In reply to the discussion: Kaptur Defeats Kucinich 94% to 4% on 100% Unverifiable E-Vote Systems in Toledo, OH? [View all]BradBlog
(2,938 posts)Um, coupla things.
a) You're confusing voter identification (purple ink) with verifiably counting ballots. That last point of yours is *completely* off topic.
b) Apparently you are unfamiliar with the fact that even touch-screen voting machines with so-called "Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trails" (or VVPATS) are also 100% unverifiable.
You do understand that those so-called paper trails are not actually counted, right?
You do understand that there is no way to know that *any* of those so-called "Voter Verified Paper Audit Trails" were actually verified by any voter, right?
You do understand as studies such as those from MIT/Caltech have found that some 85% of voters don't actually bother to look at those paper trails before they are cast, right?
You do understand that on the Diebold AccuVote TSX (the type of touch-screen system used in Lucas County), the so-called VVPAT is hidden behind a door that voters may or may not open to look at it, right?
You do understand that even if the VVPATS are ever actually counted (and they are not) and even if they are examined by voters (who knows if they were?) they can also be gamed in such a way that they could match up with the internal results, (see, for example, the state of California's "Top-to-Bottom" Review of electronic voting systems, specifically, the findings and video from the UC Santa Barbara Computer Security Lab), right?
And finally, you do understand, as studies such as one from Rice University showed, that of the minority of voters who do examine the summary at the end of the voting process, some two-thirds of them do not notice when the computer has flipped their vote, right?
If you have any questions about any of these issues, since it sounds like you are familiar with absolutely none of them, feel free to ask.