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In reply to the discussion: Grrrrrrrrrr: Scalia Rewrites History - Claims 5-4 Bush v Gore Decision - ‘Wasn’t Even Close' [View all]BzaDem
(11,142 posts)45. Someone should tell Scalia: Roe vs. Wade was also "a long time ago," and it was also 7-2.
What did Scalia have to say about that old, 7-2 decision? From his dissent in Casey (reaffirming Roe vs. Wade in 1992):
There comes vividly to mind a portrait by Emanuel Leutze that hangs in the Harvard Law School: Roger Brooke Taney, painted in 1859, the 82d year of his life, the 24th of his Chief Justiceship, the second after his opinion in Dred Scott. He is all in black, sitting in a shadowed red armchair, left hand resting upon a pad of paper in his lap, right hand hanging limply, almost lifelessly, beside the inner arm of the chair. He sits facing the viewer, and staring straight out. There seems to be on his face, and in his deep set eyes, an expression of profound sadness and disillusionment. Perhaps he always looked that way, even when dwelling upon the happiest of thoughts. But those of us who know how the lustre of his great Chief Justiceship came to be eclipsed by Dred Scott cannot help believing that he had that case--its already apparent consequences for the Court, and its soon to be played out consequences for the Nation--burning on his mind. I expect that two years earlier he, too, had thought himself "call[ing] the contending sides of national controversy to end their national division by accepting a common mandate rooted in the Constitution."
It is no more realistic for us in this case, than it was for him in that, to think that an issue of the sort they both involved--an issue involving life and death, freedom and subjugation--can be "speedily and finally settled" by the Supreme Court, as President James Buchanan in hisinaugural address said the issue of slavery in the territories would be. See Inaugural Addresses of the Presidents of the United States, S. Doc. No. 101-10, p. 126 (1989). Quite to the contrary, by foreclosing all democratic outlet for the deep passions this issue arouses, by banishing the issue from the political forum that gives all participants, even the losers, the satisfaction of a fair hearing and an honest fight, by continuing the imposition of a rigid national rule instead of allowing for regional differences, the Court merely prolongs and intensifies the anguish.
So let's get this straight. Bush v. Gore, an old 7-2 case that most certainly "foreclosed all democratic outlet" for resolving the issue (the US Congress), and "banished the issue from the political forum that gives all... a fair hearing," is a decision that people should "get over."
But Roe v. Wade, an old 7-2 decision that Scalia accuses of doing the same thing, is comparable to Taney's decision in Dred Scott vs. Sanford (holding that African Americans have "no rights which the white man was bound to respect," and mandating that slavery be extended to the territories).
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Grrrrrrrrrr: Scalia Rewrites History - Claims 5-4 Bush v Gore Decision - ‘Wasn’t Even Close' [View all]
kpete
Mar 2012
OP
The name " Bush v Gore " tells us Bush filed the case. How stupid does he think we are? nt
Vincardog
Mar 2012
#5
Gore followed Florida state law, which is where this case should have remained, Bush took it to
Uncle Joe
Mar 2012
#6
The logic was FL going to Gore would cause irreparable harm to the Bush presidency
jeff47
Mar 2012
#35
It's tragic that they never considered irreparable harm to Gore or the people
Uncle Joe
Mar 2012
#86
He's a criminal. He helped steal an election so I guess like all criminals, he does not want people
sabrina 1
Mar 2012
#28
As I said Gore followed Florida State Law, which allowed counting or recounting only in areas
Uncle Joe
Mar 2012
#85
It's just so funny, because as a result, our nation suffered, and as many as a million people died!
Gregorian
Mar 2012
#8
no true judge would say, "Get over it" in reference to a controversial decison
Skittles
Mar 2012
#12
It's kind of ironic because the wife of the attorney which won the case in Bush vs Gore died on 9/11
Uncle Joe
Mar 2012
#88
Here's an article on the back stage dealings during Bush v. Gore
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Mar 2012
#19
It doesn't matter, the point is the SC does not get to decide elections regardless.
sabrina 1
Mar 2012
#32
He's counting on the American people having the attention spans of guppies.
Crunchy Frog
Mar 2012
#31
Seven Justices of the Court agree that there are constitutional problems with
Fla_Democrat
Mar 2012
#40
And let's never forget that one of the direct beneficiaries of Scalia's decision
Art_from_Ark
Mar 2012
#41
Quack Quack Scalia has been repeatedly reciting this same bullshit for over a decade now.
Lasher
Mar 2012
#64
The name of the case "Bush vs Gore" means Bush filed the lawsuit and is the plaintiff
Gman
Mar 2012
#44
Someone should tell Scalia: Roe vs. Wade was also "a long time ago," and it was also 7-2.
BzaDem
Mar 2012
#45
Still trying to cheat there is he. Well we know the truth. His lies are not going to change a
lonestarnot
Mar 2012
#46
Wouldn't it be carmic, if President Obama got to replace Scalia in the next several years!
madinmaryland
Mar 2012
#53
This is the second time this fucking windbag has told me to "get over it." Never. Ever. nt
Stardust
Mar 2012
#55
An awful lot of people really want us to 'get over' that crime. I guess just when he
sabrina 1
Mar 2012
#63
Nader made it possible. It wasn't just Florida. Gore wouldn't have needed Florida if he had won
libinnyandia
Mar 2012
#82
I agree. I wish the Nader apologists could name one positive thing that occurred because of
libinnyandia
Mar 2012
#103
7 to 2 said Florida supreme court decides final ruling, 5 to 4 said they would not let that happen
graham4anything
Mar 2012
#65