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Beausoir

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127. Except for the

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:08 AM

Nov 2013

future women that don't get a choice in whether or not they want to be aborted.

People can pretend all they want that abortion is a harmless victimless liberation of women. Sometimes it is. But always..a fetus dies. No way to get around that.

I am pro-choice. I'm also smart enough to realize what biology is involved in aborting a fetus.

My opinion, which has matured over many years, is that aborting a fetus ends a life. Knowing that, I still support a woman's right to chose what to do with her own body.

Simple as that. Flail and gnash your teeth all you like. That is my opinion and no amount of name-calling will change my mind.

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So DU is now anti-adoption? [View all] Beausoir Nov 2013 OP

It is? TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #1

Obviously since some poster said so.... whistler162 Nov 2013 #39

I have not been on as much the last 2 days so I just don't understand what started all those OP's. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #2

Apparently a lot of people think that abortion is the only valid choice. pnwmom Nov 2013 #18

If you choose otherwise then you are harming their cause... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #77

That seems to be the gist of many posts. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #86

That doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. HappyMe Nov 2013 #85

One would think.... nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #117

i think the point was it can also cause depression , anxiety and regret every bit as much as bettyellen Nov 2013 #3

Nice to see some recognition that those who experience regret are not wrong for feeling so. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #4

people can regret -or not- either decision. so many reasons why too. pressure from loved ones, bettyellen Nov 2013 #8

I'm pretty sure it is also offensive to be told that you are abnormal if you feel something Bonobo Nov 2013 #11

but there is a huge unsupported supposition here about the amount of regret experienced... bettyellen Nov 2013 #13

i would imagine the true regret begins at the point of being preg. the sex that got them preg. seabeyond Nov 2013 #68

More so, actually. REP Nov 2013 #5

Why are p-values so rare in psychological studies? Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #53

tha fawk? Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #6

I am not suprised... Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #7

Welcome Back. RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #33

??????? Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #35

Juno came out in 2007 RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #41

I have lurked for years Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #47

mmhmm RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #57

+1. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #69

He is talking about the reaction to the movie period, not specifically on DU Marrah_G Nov 2013 #91

Having been through the process on the birth parent side, LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #9

I am anti-coerced adoption. (eom) StevieM Nov 2013 #10

Did you see this article? REP Nov 2013 #12

Thanks for the link. I didn't remember reading the article before StevieM Nov 2013 #14

I don't think so, no Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #15

From the threads I've seen you're right, but... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #21

NO ONE on DU who has suggested adoption Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #93

There were two things though gollygee Nov 2013 #98

Theoretical beliefs about which is a better option Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #101

theoretical posts that shame women are not pro choice. boston bean Nov 2013 #102

By the same token, it is not pro-choice to tell everyone Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #124

urging women otherwise known as shaming them and continuing to talk about abortion La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #106

+ this is why many on DU find these "discussions" about their choice and how awful it is, hurt women boston bean Nov 2013 #112

this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #105

For the millionth time, adoption is an alternative to raising a child. ieoeja Nov 2013 #120

Becauess the simple "fact" isn't. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #123

well stated, these are not equivalent things. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #104

No. SheilaT Nov 2013 #16

Advocating that we ought to support all reproductive choice, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #97

Some of the statements that have been put out here SheilaT Nov 2013 #110

No. Just want it to be rare. egduj Nov 2013 #17

Lol. Iggo Nov 2013 #80

As an adoptee, I'm certainly not anti-adoption. stranger81 Nov 2013 #19

WTF, indeed--I hate these "WTF" threads. MADem Nov 2013 #20

There have been several threads, or subthreads Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #99

Consider the source(s). It's not a widely held POV that adoption is evil. MADem Nov 2013 #116

You want to show everyone the thread in which Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #22

I've been watching. Some anti-Hillary people have taken exception with the "rare" jazzimov Nov 2013 #23

that would make a good "shorter" for some rather long diatribes. lol. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #27

That explains all the anti-"rare" threads a few days back LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #31

grow up. it's not about Hillary. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #50

Okay then what brought that on? LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #122

I am not anti Hillary at all and am fiercely opposed to the "rare" verbiage PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #37

SO you are anti-education and pro-abortion whistler162 Nov 2013 #42

I really expect DUers to be smarter than that PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #48

Yes, I am proudly pro-abortion. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #55

Except for the Beausoir Nov 2013 #127

super dramatic. but it's usually a zygote, not a fetus. A POTENTIAL (not actual) person. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #128

You know better than that. Beausoir Nov 2013 #129

Adoption mostly serves to exploit the poor for the benefit of the prosperous. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #24

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #25

maybe a couple of posters? using your criteria, we all believe in JFK conspiracy theories, Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #26

Uh, no. gtar100 Nov 2013 #28

The DU is also anti "rare". Seems the applegrove Nov 2013 #29

you are so off base it would be laughable if not so sad PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #49

also, are you inferring that I personally am a GOP "plant"? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #66

No, just forced childbirth Warpy Nov 2013 #30

No, but somehow I doubt DU is for calling abortion a murder. idwiyo Nov 2013 #32

Yeah, I just realized this OP is the author of the "killing a child" comment. boston bean Nov 2013 #36

Actually, he/she called it a horrific killing. Sickening. nt DLevine Nov 2013 #40

Yeah! and then said, but I'm "pro choice" boston bean Nov 2013 #43

Agree 100%. I'm getting really sick of this shit. nt DLevine Nov 2013 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Nov 2013 #73

The person who originally linked adoption to abortion was an adoptee. boston bean Nov 2013 #34

No. DU is - should be - against forced adoption... SidDithers Nov 2013 #38

wow, Sid, I'm feeling some love for you! boston bean Nov 2013 #45

It's one option I considered... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #51

I assume you had to rule out one prior. boston bean Nov 2013 #54

Nope. I started off considering all three options... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #58

So adoption was never really a consideration? boston bean Nov 2013 #60

Bottom line is I don't agree with you on what makes someone pro-choice... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #61

Then you and I do agree. boston bean Nov 2013 #63

Rarely has a post captured my feelings so well. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #90

I would say in no way Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #46

So DU allows anti-choice RW rhetoric?? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #56

I clicked on that link expecting to see someone saying abortion should be illegal... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #59

you believe everything you read on the internet. boston bean Nov 2013 #62

I only believe it if I found it via Google... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #65

Violet, that's just not fair. boston bean Nov 2013 #67

yes, and Admin has always allowed it TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #84

Oh, I know. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #94

That poster equated abortion to killing a child? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #109

Because that is acceptable as long as you're 'polite about it'. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #118

No one person speaks for the entire community notadmblnd Nov 2013 #64

Poor rhetorical device. LWolf Nov 2013 #70

Laughably so. n/t Orsino Nov 2013 #113

you create an adoption thrd, then you create this OP. what is your angle. you say you are HORRIFIED seabeyond Nov 2013 #71

No he did not say this was his own personal opinnion, he made a blanket statement boston bean Nov 2013 #74

this is such bullshit. pure bullshit. so much wrong in it. makes me want to start an OP seabeyond Nov 2013 #78

DU is only opposed to treating adoption like a simple answer gollygee Nov 2013 #72

Yes, newcriminal Nov 2013 #81

It probably depends on the specific woman gollygee Nov 2013 #83

Unfortunately there is a vocal minority who actually are against adoption Marrah_G Nov 2013 #92

It really shouldn't have turned into that. HappyMe Nov 2013 #95

umm, who started about a thread linking it to abortion and that boston bean Nov 2013 #100

You started it.. newcriminal Nov 2013 #108

Adoption works well when avebury Nov 2013 #75

I am against forcing a woman to give birth if she doesn't want to. MadrasT Nov 2013 #76

Really? Iggo Nov 2013 #79

Weird, isn't it? LittleBlue Nov 2013 #82

Well said. Beausoir Nov 2013 #130

I'm not anti-adoption DefenseLawyer Nov 2013 #87

I think some people are so quick to protest the pro-lifers that they refuse to accept any liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #88

Such a powerful statement to make. Thank you for a voice of reason. Beausoir Nov 2013 #125

It's just a small number of people Marrah_G Nov 2013 #89

Marrah, where exactly are people saying they are against adoption La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #107

Lioness, you have been in the threads. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #111

..... HappyMe Nov 2013 #114

Many of us are quite glad that you were born LittleBlue Nov 2013 #115

I dint think DU is anti adoption... actslikeacarrot Nov 2013 #96

how so? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #103

Nope. If that's what you take from recent threads you missed the first stage of the discussion Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #119

+ 1000000 boston bean Nov 2013 #121

I immediately believe you! Deep13 Nov 2013 #126