Liberals and violent porn and rape simulation

[BainsBane]

99. Who is consenting?

Last edited Fri Nov 22, 2013, 07:34 AM - Edit history (1)

You all keep acting like this is about sex. It's about commerce in pornography. There is no "between consenting adults." You aren't engaged in a sexual act with the woman or man in the video. Whether or not consent occurs is at the point of production of the porn, and the viewer isn't involved in that.

Rape is down because of the demographic changes that had led to a decline in all violent crime: there are fewer young men in the population. You aren't actually so thoughtless as to think you can prove the absence of a link between rape porn and actual rape by broader crime stats that are due to a huge array of variables? That's intellectually weak. There is an actual literature on this you can look at, and we do know how you like to cherry pick outdated academic studies. Mabye you can find some more recent ones through academic databases or Google scholar?

I have to wonder why you continue to conflate BDSM with rape. BDSM is based on consent. Rape is defined by the absence of consent. It has nothing to do with BDSM. I find it amazing that the ones who conflate the two are those defending rape porn.

As for the so-called right wing argument: bullshit. The argument is about the women who make the porn and the women raped because of the dissemination of that porn, people you are clearly unwilling to consider as having any rights. I already made the point about choice in free wage labor as compelled by the marketplace. Perhaps you're a person who doesn't give a thought to any workers rights, such as those at Walmart, or perhaps your concern stops at the sex industry and porn. But disregard for the conditions of workers is clearly right wing. Your notion of political spectrum completely ignores the humanity of the woman who make that porn and those affected by its dissemination. At least you're consistent in disregard for women's rights.

You have no problem with rape porn but are outraged at an anti-rape PSA that mentions men because in that context we are supposed to believe men have absolutely nothing to do with rape. Yet here you insist their rights depend on unfettered access to rape porn. Yes, rape PSA's are terribly offensive, while asking you to consider that real women are affected by that porn is "right-wing." Apparently your notion of left wing imagines a set of rights that belong only to men.