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jeff47

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127. Two massive problems

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:37 AM

Nov 2013

First, the Republicans are far more radical than they have ever been. They were going to eliminate the filibuster the moment it benefited them.

Second, Alito and Roberts: Democrats do not use the filibuster.

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The Filibuster rules change has passed [View all] malaise Nov 2013 OP

WOOO HOOO! napkinz Nov 2013 #1

Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2013 #2

Kick Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #3

It was necessary, but it's nothing to celebrate, IMO... Cooley Hurd Nov 2013 #4

Elections have consequences malaise Nov 2013 #5

I agree. Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #9

That simple malaise Nov 2013 #12

Yup YarnAddict Nov 2013 #14

This scares me too. Myrina Nov 2013 #51

Do you think Reid is capable of "ramming anything through" in the coming 3 years? Cal33 Nov 2013 #55

Reid is not that kinda guy. bvar22 Nov 2013 #129

They could have done it themselves if they had the majority. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #115

They think they are going to take it in 2014 YarnAddict Nov 2013 #123

This event doesn't enable or prevent them from doing so anyway. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #128

Agree. This cuts both ways. Adsos Letter Nov 2013 #24

Agree to an extent. ProSense Nov 2013 #35

...and Thomas demosincebirth Nov 2013 #91

Because if the Republicans win they wouldn't change the rules? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #39

Good point PatSeg Nov 2013 #74

Well, hell! If the GOP ever DOES take the Senate back, we'll just change it back for 'em-- lastlib Nov 2013 #107

Yep, if they want everything THEIR way, PatSeg Nov 2013 #122

We'll still have the White House. And demographics favor a (D) White House in the future. Hosnon Nov 2013 #71

It brings us one step closer to being a democratic country quakerboy Nov 2013 #110

It won't matter Heathen57 Nov 2013 #114

Here comes the progressive wet dream Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #6

Wha? All it changes is the rules for Executive Branch nominations frazzled Nov 2013 #13

+1,000 n/t malaise Nov 2013 #18

And with Boehner as Speaker, we still can't get any bills passed, even if BlueStreak Nov 2013 #81

Well, I'm glad you pointed that out. I've been listening to all the progressive SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #119

Democrats do not filibuster. jeff47 Nov 2013 #126

There is a 200 year history of using it. It should be preserved. We'll just have to agree to SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #130

There's justices Alito and Roberts. jeff47 Nov 2013 #131

Our party has used the filibuster many times. We used it to block many of SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #132

Didn't read far enough, huh? jeff47 Nov 2013 #133

You said that we had *never* used the filibuster. I provided information that showed we did. SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #134

Please point to the word "never" in my posts. jeff47 Nov 2013 #135

I took that to mean that we have never used it. If you meant it another way, then SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #136

Obviously, you're not so obvious Capt. Obvious. polichick Nov 2013 #21

The rules have changed: Reid pulls trigger on nuclear option ProSense Nov 2013 #7

Now Mitch won't go blind ... napkinz Nov 2013 #19

Harry took Mitch's political lube and Hubert Flottz Nov 2013 #43

Is Levin running for re-election? bluestate10 Nov 2013 #30

Thank God the answer is no. He's retiring after 36 years. Rowdyboy Nov 2013 #32

Yes...Yes...Yes MyOpinion-2 Nov 2013 #8

Excellent. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #10

Right on, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #11

Now things will get interesting! polichick Nov 2013 #15

k&r Little Star Nov 2013 #16

I'm genuinely stunned. This should have been done in January 2009, but Zorra Nov 2013 #17

Thank God. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #20

Republicans via the Tea Party overplayed their hand. no_hypocrisy Nov 2013 #22

In every fugging area malaise Nov 2013 #23

The GOP/teaparty is WEAK! tridim Nov 2013 #38

About time. Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #25

He shoots, he scores! HappyMe Nov 2013 #26

I stand amazed. Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #27

Outstanding! Now we can get those judges confirmed. MineralMan Nov 2013 #28

Harry Reid took his time but got the job done Gothmog Nov 2013 #29

BOOYAH! SUCK IT, MITCH! n/t backscatter712 Nov 2013 #31

Great news! lillypaddle Nov 2013 #33

Pryor and Levin badgolfer Nov 2013 #34

K&R wandy Nov 2013 #36

Are you sure this is a good idea? kudzu22 Nov 2013 #37

And Republicans wouldn't make this same change because.........? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #42

They almost did but we shamed them out it kudzu22 Nov 2013 #52

And you think they are less radical today than they were back then? jeff47 Nov 2013 #53

Maybe, maybe not kudzu22 Nov 2013 #64

Trent Lott didn't get it because he did not have the votes. jeff47 Nov 2013 #105

If there is a President Cruz we would be to fucked upaloopa Nov 2013 #45

I agree cilla4progress Nov 2013 #68

So a consistently hijacked Senate Plucketeer Nov 2013 #46

The day that Cruz is elected president will be the advent of a Theocracy. olegramps Nov 2013 #48

Yes quakerboy Nov 2013 #112

They say... Darkest before the dawn... SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2013 #40

Hooray! At last. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #41

Some of the points Reid brought up in his speech were stunning Ratty Nov 2013 #44

These points reflect what so many have forgotten Plucketeer Nov 2013 #54

Somewhere several angels Coolest Ranger Nov 2013 #47

Dems kickin' azzz flamingdem Nov 2013 #49

FINALLY REID GOES NUCLEAR!!!!! Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #50

Mark Pryor, tool: ProSense Nov 2013 #56

Apparently it is a requirement for Dems from Arkansas and Louisiana to act like Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #73

the pendulum swings both ways ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #57

nope scheming daemons Nov 2013 #58

if you say so... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #60

So according to you, the Democrats should do nothing Cleita Nov 2013 #61

we'll see how it turns out ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #80

for 200 years, minority parties never filibustered nominees scheming daemons Nov 2013 #83

when the Democrats were filibustering the Bush judicial nominees ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #88

GOP has filibustered 28 Obama nominees in 5 years scheming daemons Nov 2013 #98

not disagreeing with that at all... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #99

It didn't happen with every nominee Gore1FL Nov 2013 #116

Americans by 80-20 in polls hate the filibuster scheming daemons Nov 2013 #65

ok... we'll see... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #79

LOL Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #82

Two massive problems jeff47 Nov 2013 #127

K & R Liberal_Dog Nov 2013 #59

Hey, it's a rule.....it can be changed Uben Nov 2013 #62

Is it safe to.. adavid Nov 2013 #63

Yes, that would be safe to assume. To shut down this President and the majority of Americans mountain grammy Nov 2013 #92

Oh, I don't have a point... adavid Nov 2013 #124

I don't think it's simply spite malaise Nov 2013 #94

It was their stated purpose. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #117

Bad move Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #66

You call this "record bad press"? annabanana Nov 2013 #85

Seriously, trying to remember the last time we got "good press!" mountain grammy Nov 2013 #93

Quote: "Republicans are on track to blue14u Nov 2013 #101

Great strategy and timing cilla4progress Nov 2013 #67

I'm just wild about Harry! Politicub Nov 2013 #69

Funny...after all the sturm and drang cilla4progress Nov 2013 #70

It's far past time for all the shit 'pukes have been creating to be shoved up their collective arses indepat Nov 2013 #72

Oh Hell Yes!!!!!!!!! Blue Idaho Nov 2013 #75

MADE MY DAY!! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #76

OK NOW I believe it. 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #77

Finally! AndyA Nov 2013 #78

WHOA!!! Iggo Nov 2013 #84

k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #86

2014 congressional elections are even more important! UCmeNdc Nov 2013 #87

'Bought time we brought the war to them! CFLDem Nov 2013 #89

YAY!! YAY!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #90

Finally! You can't say we didn't try. This is way past due. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #95

amen. mcconnell has already said that dems will live to regret it. spanone Nov 2013 #96

He'll regret the elections next year when malaise Nov 2013 #97

I'm thinking McConnell is doing a bit of regretting at the moment Gore1FL Nov 2013 #118

Wow. I'm stunned. But glad! OnionPatch Nov 2013 #100

Hopefully, now that they've got their feet wet, the can kill the rest of the filibuster too AND grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #102

Good news! pacalo Nov 2013 #103

K&R gademocrat7 Nov 2013 #104

Hey, GOPee! Don't get so upset-- lastlib Nov 2013 #106

Long overdue 2naSalit Nov 2013 #108

The RW Freakout is funny. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #109

Now, where will the Conservatives in our Party hide?! Can't hide behind the always-obstructive GOP blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #111

Can we reverse five years, getting eight years work done in three? ffr Nov 2013 #113

Sometimes it seems the USA has just one problem, Republicans Coyotl Nov 2013 #120

YAY! Now I'm changing my sig to an anti-Gerrymander campaign! cprise Nov 2013 #121

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #125