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70. If Oswald wanted to be somebody why did he claim he was a patsy?

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Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:43 PM

Nov 2013

Who is more a nobody than a helpless patsy?

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A short post for the conspiracy naysayers. [View all] PCIntern Nov 2013 OP

k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #1

Ditto Berlum Nov 2013 #10

I want to know the truth. Because to know the truth is to Ninga Nov 2013 #2

We can infer what happened by looking at what followed BlueStreak Nov 2013 #157

Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2013 #234

Dang! Enthusiast Nov 2013 #257

Very well said! We can infer what happened by what followed, Raksha Nov 2013 #267

And certainly Johnson benefited. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #270

Good point-I tend to forget about Johnson because he seems too obvious a benficiary to mention, Raksha Nov 2013 #273

And his brother as AG pissed off a lot of really dangerous people BlueStreak Nov 2013 #281

A very good point! Raksha Nov 2013 #282

I don't know for sure. We know that LBJ was NOT a JFK supporter, and he named the panel BlueStreak Nov 2013 #284

I don't know much about about this debate, but Vattel Nov 2013 #337

Thanks for the link, This should have it's own post DiverDave Nov 2013 #335

Good observation. Rex Nov 2013 #3

I am not angry at you. I never have been. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #4

Interesting how those who espouse the lone arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #59

I am not insensitive to that at all. It's why I don't call people that. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #62

I would agree. I was going to respond to a post arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #65

So you're the Good Cop. Nice t' Meetcha. Have a Nice Day. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #66

I don't get what you are wanting to say ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #85

You're not alone. zappaman Nov 2013 #91

Um, kinda bazaar without more info...who's the bad cop? DiverDave Nov 2013 #336

The cops are volunteers easily identifiable in this thread and others Ace Acme Nov 2013 #340

I don't think that people like you who honestly have come to the conclusion you have, are who the OP sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #150

I do the same. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #258

I'm with you, sabrina 1. It isn't that I believed the Warren Commission report-- Raksha Nov 2013 #276

I am not angry at you or any other conspiracy theorists. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #5

I understand and respect you... PCIntern Nov 2013 #6

With respect to JFK? Yes. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #11

+1 ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #18

I agree with that very sensible post arely staircase Nov 2013 #100

Why do you think de Mohrenschildt befriended Oswald? JDPriestly Nov 2013 #146

+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #259

Thanks for the link - that's a really good article about de Mohrenschildt Raksha Nov 2013 #272

just curious... Schema Thing Nov 2013 #7

The cleaner dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #168

You callin the Wolf? Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #310

to admit that the government lied about something NightWatcher Nov 2013 #8

Oh, please. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #48

I didn't start out as a naysayer. Paladin Nov 2013 #9

I love your first sentence! Thank you! PCIntern Nov 2013 #15

Second This Emotion RobinA Nov 2013 #237

My sentiments exactly. (nt) Paladin Nov 2013 #250

Mmm, passive aggression in the morning. Union Scribe Nov 2013 #12

Not at all.. PCIntern Nov 2013 #13

Yeah that last paragraph Union Scribe Nov 2013 #16

Respectfully...but that is sort of what you did. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #17

Union Scribe, about your sig line quote? Snark, yes? saidsimplesimon Nov 2013 #61

In what way? Union Scribe Nov 2013 #84

Defiant, and I embrace it. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #260

That kind of response is about FEAR... polichick Nov 2013 #14

Dream On RobinA Nov 2013 #238

Maybe you're one of the fearful... polichick Nov 2013 #252

k&r Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #19

Trust one who seeks the truth. Avoid those who claim to have found it. Scuba Nov 2013 #20

Most of the vituperation, ridicule and demeaning I've seen comes from conspiracy theorists, sorry. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #21

There's another problem with the conspiracy theory jeff47 Nov 2013 #33

That's ridiculous. The Manhattan Project was a Conspiracy of Thousands. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #69

So you claim things were "kept secret" yet you know about them. jeff47 Nov 2013 #72

Huge deceptions were kept secret for years. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #74

How many people depends on which Conspiracy Theory you like. jeff47 Nov 2013 #77

It's not true that nobody's talking. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #82

Ah yes, now we wander off into you making claims that are provably false jeff47 Nov 2013 #86

I made no such claim. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #87

"I'm interesting in establishing the facts" zappaman Nov 2013 #93

Thanks for proving my point. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #98

You're most welcome, "Ace". zappaman Nov 2013 #105

Explain how to get on Stemmons from Main without turning onto Houston and then Elm. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #114

Nice job of distraction with pointless minutiae. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #120

Nice backpedal. You can't get there from Main, so the route was never 'changed'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #123

The point remains. How did Oswald get the route to go past his workplace? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #132

It went past his workplace regardless if it went down Main or Elm. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #135

My point exactly. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #139

He didn't. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #141

The point remains: the TSBD was the workplace for a whole lotta people. stopbush Nov 2013 #321

But few of them had connections to the intelligence community. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #323

Most of the theories have the CIA being principals BlueStreak Nov 2013 #231

I recall being aware on 9/11, or maybe the day after that fighters were scrambled. SheilaT Nov 2013 #81

People outside the DoD said fighters were scrambled. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #83

Wrong William Seger Nov 2013 #269

You're blowing smoke, as usual. I didn't claim any reasons at all. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #302

You claimed... William Seger Nov 2013 #315

For the first week after 9/11, the Pentagon claimed that no fighters had been scrambled at all. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #316

That is simply not true William Seger Nov 2013 #317

It simply is true, but since historycommons seems to be down, I can't get the refs. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #324

Well, DUH! The secrets didn't stay secret forever. Eventually many of them came out, Raksha Nov 2013 #278

If they don't stay secret forever, why are they still secret? jeff47 Nov 2013 #297

,,, questionseverything Nov 2013 #80

Thanks for the link - very informative. n/t Raksha Nov 2013 #280

E. Howard Hunt recorded a death-bed confession dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #176

You mean like Jack Ruby did? zeemike Nov 2013 #226

Dismissing evidence is definitely the realm of conspiracy theorists. DanTex Nov 2013 #41

If there were no shots from the front, then rusty fender Nov 2013 #156

Simple physics Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #220

Simple physics....now that is a good one. zeemike Nov 2013 #232

"Simple physics" says that absent any other forces BlueStreak Nov 2013 #235

When that straight line is largely UPWARD AND FORWARD? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #245

It the force of the gunshot sent matter up BlueStreak Nov 2013 #253

Not really, no Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #255

You are entitles to those opinions. But they are not "facts" BlueStreak Nov 2013 #264

They're facts. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #265

The ejected material went up and forward. not back and to the left. look at the image. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #239

The doctors at Parkland knew rusty fender Nov 2013 #236

The doctors at Parkland never saw the back of JFK's head. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #240

Emergency physicians rusty fender Nov 2013 #242

"posterior" doesn't mean "back" Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #243

No they can't. Studies have shown that emergency room doctors misidentify stopbush Nov 2013 #322

That's rich, coming from a person who just branded those with other views as "conspiracy theorists" BlueStreak Nov 2013 #159

Anyone who belives the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy is by definition... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #219

You know perfectly well that the term "conspiracy theorist" BlueStreak Nov 2013 #227

Assertion contradicted by evidence. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #229

You forgot to include the {sarcasm} thingie BlueStreak Nov 2013 #233

Jesus Christ , Both Oswald and Ruby were sick men. busterbrown Nov 2013 #244

??? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #291

When your nuts.. trying to stop a Locomotive with your body can seem realistic... busterbrown Nov 2013 #303

Who are 'you guys'? I don't believe I've ever mentioned the Mafia in sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #305

I do get things mixed up around here.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #306

Anyone who believes their government would never lie to them, has either been asleep for most of sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #311

believe what you will heaven05 Nov 2013 #165

2 days ago, you pretended not to understand me DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #202

. fascisthunter Nov 2013 #206

Thank you for illustrating my point. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #222

This. A million times this. YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #274

JFK was assasinated. Regardless of who did it and how it had to be a singular means Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #22

The anti-science stuff bothers me Prism Nov 2013 #23

Lincoln's assassination secondvariety Nov 2013 #249

I meant more in the Stanton vein Prism Nov 2013 #261

Please don't put words into our mouths and claim. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #24

If Oswald wanted to be somebody why did he claim he was a patsy? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #70

Probably because he was paranoid and a liar. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #90

Visions of grandeur, but claimed "I'm just a patsy". nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #99

Paranoid. DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #102

Does not compute. Either he did it, or he didn't. He claims he's a patsy. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #103

I don't know exactly *why* Zimmerman killed Treyvon Schema Thing Nov 2013 #104

Right, because anyone who kills another person and is apprehended for the crime within hours stopbush Nov 2013 #197

Do you believe that Oswald shot and killed Officer Tippet? If so, why would he have done so? Flatulo Nov 2013 #318

The nitrate tests were negative on the backs of the hands. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #345

Interesting, I hadn't known that. Thanks. Flatulo Nov 2013 #348

Well stated. Thank you. Myrina Nov 2013 #25

I dislike the people that make money selling book's, speaking tours, movies off peoples Johonny Nov 2013 #26

Cognitive dissonance? moondust Nov 2013 #27

But people didn't keep secrets... PCIntern Nov 2013 #28

Secrets as in moondust Nov 2013 #36

A memo that lays it out? You mean, like the memo instructing the 9/11 hijackers Ace Acme Nov 2013 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #29

Doesn't matter if LBJ doubted it. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #32

That's not true. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #34

A closed mind is Certain. bahrbearian Nov 2013 #30

Respectfully doc, I am not sure what JFK threads you have been reading The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #31

I've read them... PCIntern Nov 2013 #40

Well, you sound certain. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #45

If someone can explain to me what Oswald was doing in WTC7, I'll be satisfied Orrex Nov 2013 #35

There's no evidence that Oswald was in WTC7 nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #88

That's exactly what they want you to believe. Orrex Nov 2013 #106

Then let's see the evidence contradicting that. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #109

You first. Prove that he wasn't there. Orrex Nov 2013 #110

You seem to be unfamiliar with Betrand Russell's celestial teapot. Grow up. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #116

You really aren't getting it, are you? Orrex Nov 2013 #117

I get it just fine. You think that the major engine of cynicism that is destroying this democracy Ace Acme Nov 2013 #119

Tell me more about this "major engine of cynicism" Orrex Nov 2013 #138

You don't know that the majority of American's believe the government is Ace Acme Nov 2013 #140

I assert that most conspiracy theory is based on wishful thinking Orrex Nov 2013 #144

You're only zinging yourself. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #147

It's far too late for that. Orrex Nov 2013 #158

How do you demonstrate that the files are 100% real and complete? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #174

And your prediction shows that conspiracy theorists will never be sated Orrex Nov 2013 #181

I didn't predict anything. I questioned the basis of your prediction. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #185

I posed a hypothetical Orrex Nov 2013 #211

Oh, sorry. It wasn't a prediction. It was an impossible hypotheical. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #212

Should have been obvious from the first post. Orrex Nov 2013 #221

So in 181 you say I predicted something. In 221 you say I didn't. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #223

I confess that I mistook your blather in 181 for coherence Orrex Nov 2013 #225

There is no evidence is WAS NOT! n-t Logical Nov 2013 #162

It would be nice if you could properly apply the Burden of Proof in all cases. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #186

Name a case where I improperly applied a burden of proof. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #191

Plenty of it in the WTC thread we enjoyed. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #194

I didn't ask you to disprove anything. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #196

His claims, are by definition, unsubstantiated. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #201

His claims are siubstantiated by the photos and the scientific tests he conducted. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #208

Lying was only one option that explains his motives. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #286

The photo and the test results substantiate his claims. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #287

There is a test that could partially substantiate his claim. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #290

A 40-pound chunk of melted steel was sitting on someone's desk? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #292

Within an array of possibilities, yes. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #296

Right, which is why I'm asking you to demonstrate that Dr. Jones can not substantiate his claims. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #299

He Who Knows, Knows Not... While He Who Knows He Knows Not, Knows... WillyT Nov 2013 #37

I'm not angry or vituperative in the least. DanTex Nov 2013 #38

and the anti-conspiracy crowd forgets that Congress itself decided their was a conspiracy yurbud Nov 2013 #39

^^^^^ questionseverything Nov 2013 #76

Funny how that is overlooked by so many, including the media. polichick Nov 2013 #79

Under Congressional rules, their evidence is sealed until 2028, 50 years after the report. nt DRoseDARs Nov 2013 #214

I'll TELL you why they do it.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #42

CT belief reminds me very much of "Intelegent Design." fleabiscuit Nov 2013 #43

That certainly could be said of the CT deniers avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #64

Oh really? link? nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #164

Really...Where have you been? avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #167

So aselect committee "believed" there was one... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #175

I tend to come down on CT's pretty hard because AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #44

How did Oswald manage to get the parade route changed so it passed by his worlplace? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #89

He worked there already and saw opportunity treestar Nov 2013 #101

He didn't. It wasn't changed either. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #108

How did Oswald get the parade route set that it passed by his workplace? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #118

From the front page of the paper. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #122

Shooting on Main is a much more difficult shot. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #166

It wouldn't have been going any faster. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #173

Also, one might reasonably conclude that Oswald was a sharp enough cookie to figure out that AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #124

How did Oswald get the route to go past his workplace? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #134

He didn't. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #137

So you think it's a total coincidence that the JFK shooter just happened to be employed Ace Acme Nov 2013 #142

Oswald was apparently seeking people to kill. Kennedy could have been a matter of simple opportunity AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #143

If Oswald was just seeking people to kill, why didn't he plan it better? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #169

This is akin to creationism theory again. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #177

I'm not assuming anything, and I'm not a CTer. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #182

I missed the part where I denied any of those groups may have wanted him dead. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #184

You missed the part where you said there is no evidence of any motive Ace Acme Nov 2013 #189

That was in reference specifically to Oswald, not the world, but you knew that. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #192

"no indication that anything precipitated this event beyond . . . " Ace Acme Nov 2013 #198

Read the previous sentence. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #203

Motive is not evidence. YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #275

Why didn't he plan it better? His plan worked - he killed JFK. stopbush Nov 2013 #200

His plan didn't work. He didn't get away. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #209

Depends on what getting away means. stopbush Nov 2013 #228

The evidence connecting Oswald with the Walker shooting is very poor. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #279

Like the note Oswald wrote to Marina telling her what to do if he was arrested for shooting Walker? stopbush Nov 2013 #298

The note did not mention Walker, and was determined to be of dubious authenticity. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #300

Total BS. You're making thing up. stopbush Nov 2013 #301

Pine boards are denser than bricks? Who's making stuff up? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #307

So the question is: would a bullet that had no problem penetrating 36" of pine boards stopbush Nov 2013 #312

There's still the problem that Gen. Walker said the bullet they offered in evidence Ace Acme Nov 2013 #313

Do you have a source for that statement? stopbush Nov 2013 #314

You can find it as easily as I. It was in a letter to the Attorney General. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #319

Nah. I'm not going to bother looking. I'll just assume you're lying. stopbush Nov 2013 #320

You're the one who claims the Walker evidence is not poor. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #325

Me, the WC, the HSCA, the Rockefeller Commission and a few others. stopbush Nov 2013 #327

Walker told the HSCA that their projectile bore no resemlance to the one he saw. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #328

Source/link please. stopbush Nov 2013 #329

So you don't even know this basic stuff. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #330

Oh, I've read that claim at jfkfacts and other sites, but I've never seen a copy stopbush Nov 2013 #331

... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #333

You guys are so quick to call for unreasonable proofs. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #338

Nothing unreasonable about asking you to supply a source when you make a claim. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #339

You're shifting the goalposts from providing proof to asking for refs. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #341

You've made it pretty clear that you're incapable of reasoned debate. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #342

Oh, you switched from moving the goalposts to ad hominem attack. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #343

Simple statement of fact Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #344

There's no burden of proof. There's a burden of reasonable doubt. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #346

I see you haven't addressed all of the points of evidence I listed, then. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #347

Something I've noticed about surveillance video . . . Ace Acme Nov 2013 #350

Oswald's nitrate test wasn't negative. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #352

It was positive for the palms--consistent with handling weapons or--surprise!--printed material. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #353

You clearly didn't read any of the links. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #354

Oh so now there are no tests showing LHO fired a weapon? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #355

You're the one who claimed the test was negative (it wasn't) Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #356

The nitrate test was negative for firing a weapon, because only the palms Ace Acme Nov 2013 #357

Handwaving. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #359

Why are you so anxious to convict LHO when he never had a trial? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #361

Why are you so anxious to ignore, misrepresent, and distort evidence? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #363

I'm not. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #365

It really doesn't matter what Gen Walker thought about the bullet displayed stopbush Nov 2013 #349

It does matter that the witness who turned over the evidence to the authorities Ace Acme Nov 2013 #351

Wait wait wait. The real question is how did Oswald get the road built that way decades prior. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #113

LOL, you are fucking serious? n-t Logical Nov 2013 #163

Yeah. If Oswald wanted to kill JFK how did he get JFK to come to him? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #170

Crime of opportunity. Get it? n-t Logical Nov 2013 #171

Show that Oswald 'wanted to kill JFK' prior to the announcement in the paper of the parade AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #179

He wrote "JFK must die" repeatedly in his notebook Ace Acme Nov 2013 #213

So, in no way supports your claim. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #285

nwor nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #362

And yet, you did. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #364

^^^^ Bothers me the most, I think. I remember a video that went around Flatulo Nov 2013 #266

I have little doubt that most prominent news personalities have received late-night phone calls Ace Acme Nov 2013 #309

Fear whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #46

Fear? ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #50

This makes absolutely no sense. DanTex Nov 2013 #54

Well if you believe that about the CIA whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #55

It's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of evidence. DanTex Nov 2013 #58

Well said! Question everything.........retain what is good. joanbarnes Nov 2013 #47

Agreed, its nothing but FEAR, same as 9-11. joanbarnes Nov 2013 #49

Not angry at all, just don't want it diluting GD. grantcart Nov 2013 #51

If the conspiracy involved Oswald as a patsy, why would the conspiracy aid his escape? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #96

lol that is the inevitable stroll down the conspiracy street. grantcart Nov 2013 #111

Your questions contain unjustified assumptions. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #136

If Oswald was holy unconnected to the shooting and an uninformed 'patsy' then what accounts grantcart Nov 2013 #148

I didn't say he was wholely unconnected or uninformed. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #172

I've wondered that too renate Nov 2013 #107

There are no evidence that Ruby could keep confidences. He was well known to reporters as a guy grantcart Nov 2013 #112

I ridicule CTs when they're constructed from the back, forward. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #52

I've lived in Fort Worth for 25 years. MicaelS Nov 2013 #53

I have a question for you. DanTex Nov 2013 #57

I think it could have been done in 7-9 seconds.. MicaelS Nov 2013 #115

Nope. You counter-rotate the rifle. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #145

How can you demand incontrovertible evidence before there's even been an honest investigation? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #92

It was my trip to Dealey Plaza and the museum when I first moved here to Texas ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #121

easy - release all documents belltower Nov 2013 #152

That's for sure. TBF Nov 2013 #254

Zombie theories, whether it concerns JFK's WowSeriously Nov 2013 #56

I have no doubt there is more, much more to the JFK assassination than Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #60

I think it's more of a case of CTer's getting angry 'cause people don't agree with them. Kaleva Nov 2013 #63

Respectful question: Do you feel the same for those who question the official 911 story? nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #67

I was 8 when it happened libodem Nov 2013 #68

Yours is a straw man argument. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #71

Simple: stopbush Nov 2013 #75

Simple is as simple does. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #97

That's about the answer I've come to expect from the know-nothing CTists. stopbush Nov 2013 #128

Where did you get the idea that I'm a CTist? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #130

Clearly Bigfoot did it as part of an alien conspiricy. CFLDem Nov 2013 #78

As you well know, an evidence-free speculation (orbiting teapot) can not be proven wrong. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #94

Except that when someone proves your 'evidence' wrong, you simply pack up your goalposts and relocat AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #125

I didn't put forth any evidence of an alien conspiracy. Nobody did. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #131

It doesn't matter if it "rings true" to you. It's the TRUTH for God's sake. duffyduff Nov 2013 #95

It's only the 50th anniversary... dchill Nov 2013 #126

Yeah, maybe by the 100th anniversary the truth will come out. RebelOne Nov 2013 #153

At 75 years, a bunch of stuff gets declassified. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #178

interesting gopiscrap Nov 2013 #127

Mine's shorter. Warpy Nov 2013 #129

If CTs would agree on some of the obvious pieces....it would enhance their overall argument. cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #133

Really, what do we all agree on, nyquil_man Nov 2013 #149

The Emperor's New Clothes. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2013 #151

you've said something very important heaven05 Nov 2013 #154

I just have some lingering doubts that all of the pertinent info has been revealed. northoftheborder Nov 2013 #155

I think one reason they get so angry liberalhistorian Nov 2013 #160

Same reason I think Climate Change deniers are idiots. They ignore facts. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #161

If it really were "suggesting", or the old fave "just asking questions"... Silent3 Nov 2013 #180

Oswald RagAss Nov 2013 #183

I don't know what you've been reading, Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #187

The nitrate test on Oswald was negative. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #190

Yeah...they say that's no problem... PCIntern Nov 2013 #195

Holy Cow. BeatleBoot Nov 2013 #188

Because it is vitally important that no one ask any questions about this, ever. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #193

JFK CTs = 9/11 CTs, no difference. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #207

You know who else used red herring arguments? HITLER! Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #210

I'm sorry, but I just can't take the word of a man who would sell out Humanity to the Combine... DRoseDARs Nov 2013 #216

I was unfairly slandered Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #217

There exists an insufficent amount of lemon juice for me to even consider that. DRoseDARs Nov 2013 #218

THIS ^^^^ is the issue BlueStreak Nov 2013 #241

I listen to conspiracy theories a lot OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #199

Well said. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #204

kick and rec (nt) fascisthunter Nov 2013 #205

, blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #215

Thank you. I truly appreciate your post. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #224

+10000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #263

KnR MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #230

The Paranoid Style The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #246

I didn't expect a "Diagnosis"... PCIntern Nov 2013 #247

Yes, you've nailed exactly. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #277

Nailed it, yes. Your bogus attempts to paint justifiable skepticism as pathological. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #288

Yes, you too. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #289

You find rationality to be obnoxious. No surprise. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #293

Oh yes, you are the paragon of rationality in these threads. Here, for you... The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #294

Empty assertion, no substantiation, smilies. Thanks for showing where you're coming from. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #295

K&R KansDem Nov 2013 #248

I'm not at all angry with the CT folks-- I simply think they're wrong. ColesCountyDem Nov 2013 #251

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #256

PC - You've raised an important issue... truth2power Nov 2013 #262

simply put: PCIntern Nov 2013 #268

Thank you! bobGandolf Nov 2013 #271

K&R Boomerproud Nov 2013 #283

I have my doubts. Lone gunman doesn't rule out DevonRex Nov 2013 #304

CIA and KGB had a common interest in squelching detente Ace Acme Nov 2013 #308

I think there is a chance marsis Nov 2013 #326

Wellstone Ace Acme Nov 2013 #358

Thank you marsis Nov 2013 #360

Good post, PC. Sorry I missed it till now. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2013 #332

You're forgiven... PCIntern Nov 2013 #334