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72. Good for them.

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:37 PM

Nov 2013

You know what really pisses me off? This could have been WI. Doyle was working on single payer and I'm sure Barrett would have done it even before the ACA was signed. But with Walker nothing good will ever happen in WI.

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Vermont Approves Single-Payer Health Care: �Everybody in, nobody out� [View all] Scuba Nov 2013 OP

du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #1

This should have been the ACA malaise Nov 2013 #2

It has to start somewhere. IronLionZion Nov 2013 #9

Yep! passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #93

woot IronLionZion Nov 2013 #99

This is what the ACA makes possible. n/t mattclearing Nov 2013 #84

Why wasn't it possible before? nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #89

I know the answer to that.. stillcool Nov 2013 #90

It was possible before, but my point is that the ACA was an achievable stepping stone. mattclearing Nov 2013 #94

It was. Doctor_J Nov 2013 #95

Yeah, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #91

As a Vermonter, I appreciate the nod. As the nitpicker I am, cali Nov 2013 #3

Thanks, cali, for the corrections!!! Scuba Nov 2013 #4

To nitpick, Vermont was the first state to PASS marriage equality. morningfog Nov 2013 #13

Payroll taxes make the most sense moxybug Nov 2013 #24

No reason capital gains should be exempt from the tax, as stockholders will be covered too. Scuba Nov 2013 #32

because they're the "job creators"! (sarcasm) nt antigop Nov 2013 #35

Good thinking, Scuba! I totally agree. loudsue Nov 2013 #42

+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #46

I wholeheartedly agree moxybug Nov 2013 #49

Not at all. I just wanted to make sure capital gains got mentioned. Scuba Nov 2013 #50

The problem with taxing capital gains in a state is that grantcart Nov 2013 #77

The aim is to get the wealthy to pay their fair share. You're correct that the very wealthy ... Scuba Nov 2013 #78

Another aspect of this paying for healthcare thing I often get into arguments over, SheilaT Nov 2013 #71

Excellent point. The hugely expensive Insurance Premiums are never mentioned. Nor the fact that sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #115

We have to consider how much Vermonters are currently spending for health care. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #45

payroll tax though? hfojvt Nov 2013 #65

I am wondering what will happen to Workers' Comp. As an employer, tsuki Nov 2013 #83

Just curious, as you seem to be well informed on this, will those for-profit organizations become hughee99 Nov 2013 #85

what for-profit organizations are you specifically referring to? cali Nov 2013 #108

The article said all hospitals and health care providers will now be non-profit. hughee99 Nov 2013 #113

ah, all hospitals are already non-profit in VT cali Nov 2013 #119

Correct davidpdx Nov 2013 #117

Hail Vermont, Cradle of Independence and Sanity! Demeter Nov 2013 #5

Congratulations, Vermont! k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #6

Moscow girls make me sing and shout Fumesucker Nov 2013 #7

Moscow, Vermont, of course. cali Nov 2013 #8

Poifect! Fumesucker Nov 2013 #11

Ha ha ha! And Berlin not far away flamingdem Nov 2013 #56

Cool davidpdx Nov 2013 #116

Oh, one more thing about the VT experiment: cali Nov 2013 #10

" the legislature has passed laws ........ regulating hospital price increases, etc." pangaia Nov 2013 #26

It's the domino theory coming down from Qubec, eh? grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #59

That is encouraging......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #47

Wow! First step toward national single-payer? Ian_rd Nov 2013 #12

I wouldn't hold my breath........ Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #20

Yep. The ACA moves the single-payer fight to the states. jeff47 Nov 2013 #54

Our second step Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #14

This will be a major economic boost for Vermont Mopar151 Nov 2013 #15

+1 Scuba Nov 2013 #16

Actually, Vt has a very healthy tech startup scene cali Nov 2013 #18

Hey, I'm a little "old school" Mopar151 Nov 2013 #19

And so it begins ... ? DirkGently Nov 2013 #17

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Nov 2013 #21

Let's hope this is the first of fifty! (Although it might take some states fifty more years.) polichick Nov 2013 #22

This is how national single payer starts... SidDithers Nov 2013 #23

I can't wait to see how this works out for them Victor_c3 Nov 2013 #25

K&R for Vermont leading the way! mountain grammy Nov 2013 #27

When do the snows begin to melt in Vermont? May make a visit next year. mmonk Nov 2013 #28

Beats me. But here in Wisconsin most of the snow is usually melted by the 4th of July. Scuba Nov 2013 #29

I can use that as a barometer I suppose. mmonk Nov 2013 #33

Oh. Well in that case, it's actually very nice here, a good refuge from global warming. Scuba Nov 2013 #37

Yes but I was there during horrible flooding in 2012 flamingdem Nov 2013 #57

Woo-hoo, Vermont! City Lights Nov 2013 #30

I am running out of reasons for not living in Vermont already! Moostache Nov 2013 #31

Fantastic -maybe it can be the model for the country in the NEAR future liberal N proud Nov 2013 #34

Yes cause the rest of the country is so similar to Vermont oberliner Nov 2013 #109

Finally some sanity and an example for others on point Nov 2013 #36

Vermont is not an example for others oberliner Nov 2013 #110

there are other states with similar demographics cali Nov 2013 #111

(And sadly, those deaths mentioned in the commentary include children.) GO VERMONT!!!! FourScore Nov 2013 #38

Excellent ! yesphan Nov 2013 #39

Yeah Vermont! lonestarnot Nov 2013 #40

Yay, Vermont! Kicked and recommended plus one! Enthusiast Nov 2013 #41

Now if we could just have President Bernie all will be right in the world! mucifer Nov 2013 #43

Thank you, Vermont. Could you please send a letter of recommendation to Wa. St.? n/t Alkene Nov 2013 #44

It's not quite win-win... adieu Nov 2013 #48

I hope it spreads yurbud Nov 2013 #51

In a civilized society, some things are just not done for profit. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #52

Exactly so. Lex Nov 2013 #55

I love this state lovuian Nov 2013 #53

Now all they need to do is void all prior medical bills.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #58

Great idea! Hope someone is working on it. Scuba Nov 2013 #62

K&R - GO VERMONT!!! MadrasT Nov 2013 #60

May I suggest Dems use thes words, " If the R's don't like the federal website, they can simply move grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #61

+ a boatload of recs Scuba Nov 2013 #63

Vermont is so awesome LittleBlue Nov 2013 #64

really stupid question. Does the state control how much littlewolf Nov 2013 #66

Vermont hospitals will have to offer competitive salaries to their clinicians and other workers .... Scuba Nov 2013 #68

Hooray for Vermont! One down, forty-nine to go! IrishAyes Nov 2013 #67

The Green Mountain Boys ride again! raging moderate Nov 2013 #69

I heard 1500 doctors have promised to relocate to VT if they did this ErikJ Nov 2013 #70

I hope that's true. We sure need them...hard to find Drs. to move here due to the snow and cold. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #81

Good for them. EC Nov 2013 #72

Yep. Teabaggers. I'll never forgive them. Scuba Nov 2013 #73

yep.. n/t EC Nov 2013 #74

Re: WI election.... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #75

That EC Nov 2013 #76

VERMONT ROCKS!!! n/t R. P. McMurphy Nov 2013 #79

Very awesome .... e.o.m. ut oh Nov 2013 #80

, blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #82

Vermont is light years ahead HockeyMom Nov 2013 #86

So cool. Excellent news. WTG Vermont! nt Live and Learn Nov 2013 #87

We need this nationwide. Fuck those parasite insurance companies. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #88

Bravo VT!!! nt mother earth Nov 2013 #92

As state legislatures permit, ProSense Nov 2013 #96

Wisconsin's poised to follow suit in just a few thousand years. Scuba Nov 2013 #97

I'd move there if it weren't so freakin' cold. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #98

I�m loving this; but � 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #100

Hallelujah .... the sun is shining in Vermont ... MindMover Nov 2013 #101

The shit's gonna hit the fan when Limpballs hears about this Kennah Nov 2013 #102

GOOD! RBInMaine Nov 2013 #103

Let's hope there is a domino effect .. unfortunately the southern states won't go there. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #104

k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #105

This is what we need ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #107

"Go back to sleep, Bob." klook Nov 2013 #112

K&R Love Vermont. woo me with science Nov 2013 #114

Kicked Enthusiast Nov 2013 #118

If memory serves me correctly, RoccoR5955 Nov 2013 #120