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TheKentuckian

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7. heh...I'm pretty well established as no fan
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:00 PM
Nov 2013

But in a lot of conversations, I am the voice of reason because I at least understand how bad things are were in the individual market and don't hesitate to poke a bit to help folks come closer to realizing that their support for what we had is about a millimeter deep, especially since everyone knows someone who got a raw deal one way or the other.

This is what happens when pragmatism is redefined to mean the path of least political resistance rather than practical execution.

True enough that you can only execute what you can pass but it is deadly peril to ignore what happens when the rubber meets the road because the folks that get run over will not be eager to give you the keys again.

The lack of debate about the "how" makes this much more dangerous because this has been framed as all us. All the compromise for no votes is suicidal.

If you are going to do something massive then the benefits have to be broad and OBVIOUS. You aren't usually going to get away with even inconveniencing more than you help and it will make bad worse is if it comes out that the folks that are supposed to be helped are having significant issues as well, like not being able to afford care.

This is why we have had to say no to similar and even arguably better deals in the past, because the cost of screwing the pooch and having to chum it up with and deeply depend on unrepentant and unaccountable saboteurs is higher than the broad benefit that can be extracted in the exchange.

Sometimes real pragmatism requires not taking the step forward when the price is two back and understanding that no matter how desperate the need for shelter, if you build your house on a foundation of sand it is liable to fall down on you.

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I signed up 30 minutes ago. Rest assured as more people find success... NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author napkinz Nov 2013 #4
It's really too early to know the political fallout from the ACA, we won't even know how many PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #2
the media is in feeding frenzy mode re: the ACA right now. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #3
here ----> napkinz Nov 2013 #5
Thanks!! renie408 Nov 2013 #15
Negative ACA stories are planted here to serve an agenda Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #6
This ^^^^^^^ treestar Nov 2013 #18
heh...I'm pretty well established as no fan TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #7
A reasonable and valid response Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #10
In January, the individual policies will expire for many folks.... kentuck Nov 2013 #8
I remember the Medicare rollout. Same-o, same-o. tsuki Nov 2013 #9
I'm thinking it will be changed and tweaked quinnox Nov 2013 #11
How can we pass tweaks? Especially for the stuff that we willfully constructed as is by a much TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #12
You might be right that any compromises made will be voted down by republicans quinnox Nov 2013 #14
The American public is extremely fickle taught_me_patience Nov 2013 #13
most of them aren't bombarded as much as us who drink from the firehose of oversaturated political Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #16
Good point. renie408 Nov 2013 #17
Refocus on the many, many, many people (myself included) who can ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #19
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