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Vermont Approves Single-Payer Health Care: �Everybody in, nobody out� [View all] Scuba Nov 2013 OP

du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #1

This should have been the ACA malaise Nov 2013 #2

It has to start somewhere. IronLionZion Nov 2013 #9

Yep! passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #93

woot IronLionZion Nov 2013 #99

This is what the ACA makes possible. n/t mattclearing Nov 2013 #84

Why wasn't it possible before? nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #89

I know the answer to that.. stillcool Nov 2013 #90

It was possible before, but my point is that the ACA was an achievable stepping stone. mattclearing Nov 2013 #94

It was. Doctor_J Nov 2013 #95

Yeah, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #91

As a Vermonter, I appreciate the nod. As the nitpicker I am, cali Nov 2013 #3

Thanks, cali, for the corrections!!! Scuba Nov 2013 #4

To nitpick, Vermont was the first state to PASS marriage equality. morningfog Nov 2013 #13

Payroll taxes make the most sense moxybug Nov 2013 #24

No reason capital gains should be exempt from the tax, as stockholders will be covered too. Scuba Nov 2013 #32

because they're the "job creators"! (sarcasm) nt antigop Nov 2013 #35

Good thinking, Scuba! I totally agree. loudsue Nov 2013 #42

+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #46

I wholeheartedly agree moxybug Nov 2013 #49

Not at all. I just wanted to make sure capital gains got mentioned. Scuba Nov 2013 #50

The problem with taxing capital gains in a state is that grantcart Nov 2013 #77

The aim is to get the wealthy to pay their fair share. You're correct that the very wealthy ... Scuba Nov 2013 #78

Another aspect of this paying for healthcare thing I often get into arguments over, SheilaT Nov 2013 #71

Excellent point. The hugely expensive Insurance Premiums are never mentioned. Nor the fact that sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #115

We have to consider how much Vermonters are currently spending for health care. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #45

payroll tax though? hfojvt Nov 2013 #65

I am wondering what will happen to Workers' Comp. As an employer, tsuki Nov 2013 #83

Just curious, as you seem to be well informed on this, will those for-profit organizations become hughee99 Nov 2013 #85

what for-profit organizations are you specifically referring to? cali Nov 2013 #108

The article said all hospitals and health care providers will now be non-profit. hughee99 Nov 2013 #113

ah, all hospitals are already non-profit in VT cali Nov 2013 #119

Correct davidpdx Nov 2013 #117

Hail Vermont, Cradle of Independence and Sanity! Demeter Nov 2013 #5

Congratulations, Vermont! k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #6

Moscow girls make me sing and shout Fumesucker Nov 2013 #7

Moscow, Vermont, of course. cali Nov 2013 #8

Poifect! Fumesucker Nov 2013 #11

Ha ha ha! And Berlin not far away flamingdem Nov 2013 #56

Cool davidpdx Nov 2013 #116

Oh, one more thing about the VT experiment: cali Nov 2013 #10

" the legislature has passed laws ........ regulating hospital price increases, etc." pangaia Nov 2013 #26

It's the domino theory coming down from Qubec, eh? grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #59

That is encouraging......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #47

Wow! First step toward national single-payer? Ian_rd Nov 2013 #12

I wouldn't hold my breath........ Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #20

Yep. The ACA moves the single-payer fight to the states. jeff47 Nov 2013 #54

Our second step Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #14

This will be a major economic boost for Vermont Mopar151 Nov 2013 #15

+1 Scuba Nov 2013 #16

Actually, Vt has a very healthy tech startup scene cali Nov 2013 #18

Hey, I'm a little "old school" Mopar151 Nov 2013 #19

And so it begins ... ? DirkGently Nov 2013 #17

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Nov 2013 #21

Let's hope this is the first of fifty! (Although it might take some states fifty more years.) polichick Nov 2013 #22

This is how national single payer starts... SidDithers Nov 2013 #23

I can't wait to see how this works out for them Victor_c3 Nov 2013 #25

K&R for Vermont leading the way! mountain grammy Nov 2013 #27

When do the snows begin to melt in Vermont? May make a visit next year. mmonk Nov 2013 #28

Beats me. But here in Wisconsin most of the snow is usually melted by the 4th of July. Scuba Nov 2013 #29

I can use that as a barometer I suppose. mmonk Nov 2013 #33

Oh. Well in that case, it's actually very nice here, a good refuge from global warming. Scuba Nov 2013 #37

Yes but I was there during horrible flooding in 2012 flamingdem Nov 2013 #57

Woo-hoo, Vermont! City Lights Nov 2013 #30

I am running out of reasons for not living in Vermont already! Moostache Nov 2013 #31

Fantastic -maybe it can be the model for the country in the NEAR future liberal N proud Nov 2013 #34

Yes cause the rest of the country is so similar to Vermont oberliner Nov 2013 #109

Finally some sanity and an example for others on point Nov 2013 #36

Vermont is not an example for others oberliner Nov 2013 #110

there are other states with similar demographics cali Nov 2013 #111

(And sadly, those deaths mentioned in the commentary include children.) GO VERMONT!!!! FourScore Nov 2013 #38

Excellent ! yesphan Nov 2013 #39

Yeah Vermont! lonestarnot Nov 2013 #40

Yay, Vermont! Kicked and recommended plus one! Enthusiast Nov 2013 #41

Now if we could just have President Bernie all will be right in the world! mucifer Nov 2013 #43

Thank you, Vermont. Could you please send a letter of recommendation to Wa. St.? n/t Alkene Nov 2013 #44

It's not quite win-win... adieu Nov 2013 #48

I hope it spreads yurbud Nov 2013 #51

In a civilized society, some things are just not done for profit. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #52

Exactly so. Lex Nov 2013 #55

I love this state lovuian Nov 2013 #53

Now all they need to do is void all prior medical bills.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #58

Great idea! Hope someone is working on it. Scuba Nov 2013 #62

K&R - GO VERMONT!!! MadrasT Nov 2013 #60

May I suggest Dems use thes words, " If the R's don't like the federal website, they can simply move grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #61

+ a boatload of recs Scuba Nov 2013 #63

Vermont is so awesome LittleBlue Nov 2013 #64

really stupid question. Does the state control how much littlewolf Nov 2013 #66

Vermont hospitals will have to offer competitive salaries to their clinicians and other workers .... Scuba Nov 2013 #68

Hooray for Vermont! One down, forty-nine to go! IrishAyes Nov 2013 #67

The Green Mountain Boys ride again! raging moderate Nov 2013 #69

I heard 1500 doctors have promised to relocate to VT if they did this ErikJ Nov 2013 #70

I hope that's true. We sure need them...hard to find Drs. to move here due to the snow and cold. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #81

Good for them. EC Nov 2013 #72

Yep. Teabaggers. I'll never forgive them. Scuba Nov 2013 #73

yep.. n/t EC Nov 2013 #74

Re: WI election.... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #75

That EC Nov 2013 #76

VERMONT ROCKS!!! n/t R. P. McMurphy Nov 2013 #79

Very awesome .... e.o.m. ut oh Nov 2013 #80

, blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #82

Vermont is light years ahead HockeyMom Nov 2013 #86

So cool. Excellent news. WTG Vermont! nt Live and Learn Nov 2013 #87

We need this nationwide. Fuck those parasite insurance companies. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #88

Bravo VT!!! nt mother earth Nov 2013 #92

As state legislatures permit, ProSense Nov 2013 #96

Wisconsin's poised to follow suit in just a few thousand years. Scuba Nov 2013 #97

I'd move there if it weren't so freakin' cold. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #98

I�m loving this; but � 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #100

Hallelujah .... the sun is shining in Vermont ... MindMover Nov 2013 #101

The shit's gonna hit the fan when Limpballs hears about this Kennah Nov 2013 #102

GOOD! RBInMaine Nov 2013 #103

Let's hope there is a domino effect .. unfortunately the southern states won't go there. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #104

k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #105

This is what we need ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #107

"Go back to sleep, Bob." klook Nov 2013 #112

K&R Love Vermont. woo me with science Nov 2013 #114

Kicked Enthusiast Nov 2013 #118

If memory serves me correctly, RoccoR5955 Nov 2013 #120