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Nuclear Unicorn

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30. Please point out where I even hinted at it being OK for Limbaugh

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 08:03 AM

Mar 2012

to get away with being a sexist pig. I haven't even come close. That's claiming an argument I never made.

What I have been speaking about from word No. 1 is that the standard need to apply equally because sexism is never acceptable. The person/venue/audience size/number of offenses/political affiliation are immaterial to the fact that sexism is meant to demean a woman based on her gender.

If I was confronted with 2 cases of homophobia where 1 person had been excoriated and the other left undisturbed my complaint wouldn't be to allow both to go but I would want to know why both weren't made to understand the vileness of their actions.

"Yes, but our side likes him," isn't an excuse; that would make those who pretend to be on our side into unprincipled hypocrites.

"Yes, but only a few other people heard him say it," isn't an excuse. Homophobia is an attack on good people trying to demean who they are.

"Yes, but he only said it a few times," isn't an excuse; it's disgusting the first time.

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I've been gone a few days swamped at work and this is what I come back to? [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 OP

This: "...demand an end to sexism from everyone -- equally..." CrispyQ Mar 2012 #1

I was pissed at Maher among other things for telling us Rush apologized, get over it. roguevalley Mar 2012 #14

kick ass, woman. i am hearin you roar. seabeyond Mar 2012 #2

So much energy wasted on Limbaugh...in the quest to 'get him off the air' lacrew Mar 2012 #3

So please provide a link... ljm2002 Mar 2012 #11

Few are giving him a pass now and few gave him a pass then... Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #4

maher is not guilty of only one crude on liner. and i agree, not comparable to limbaughs 3 day seabeyond Mar 2012 #5

I didn't say ONE on-liner. I believe it was 3 in 10 days. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #6

i agree with all you say. that is the thing. if he had called her just a slut and prostitute, that seabeyond Mar 2012 #7

where do you get off? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #8

+1000! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #34

Oh please, how ridiculous TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #9

Wow! Really? HuckleB Mar 2012 #20

Yes, really! TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #27

Try again. HuckleB Mar 2012 #88

Back at'cha! TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #91

Did you say something? HuckleB Mar 2012 #92

Evidently written words are a problem for you TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #94

I disagree. The C word should never be used. It is objectively offensive and sexist. nt Liquorice Mar 2012 #23

Sexism isn't defined that way TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #26

I don't need a lesson on what sexism is. Believe me. And Liquorice Mar 2012 #29

So, that you're a woman gives you the power to know what a man feels? TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #85

I know how I feel when a man calls me a c. Clearly that's what I meant. It is Liquorice Mar 2012 #86

You're missing all of the points I've made, I'd argue intentionally TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #87

Exactly. HuckleB Mar 2012 #89

Go back to work. Swede Mar 2012 #10

Maher is also an anti-science dufus, much like most of the GOP. HuckleB Mar 2012 #21

How exactly is Maher anti-science? Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #46

All you had to do was Google Bill Maher and anti-science. It's not hard, but here are some examples. HuckleB Mar 2012 #90

Please watch the VIDEO on the link below Tx4obama Mar 2012 #12

Why does it matter if it's 1 time or 53 times? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #13

Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #16

Please point out where I even hinted at it being OK for Limbaugh Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #30

Even once is too many. No excuse. emilyg Mar 2012 #15

+1.000 !!! Zalatix Mar 2012 #58

Umm... HuckleB Mar 2012 #22

When Bill Maher can command the course of the Democratic party, then you'll have a point. baldguy Mar 2012 #17

Your OP ProSense Mar 2012 #18

I'm a woman too. What's your point? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #31

Really? ProSense Mar 2012 #38

You quoted me at length and still misinterpreted (or distorted) what I wrote Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #41

You still ProSense Mar 2012 #45

People who enable sexism are not better than the sexists they make excuses for. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #53

Wait ProSense Mar 2012 #59

Let the Rude Pundit call conservative women CUNTS though? You'll have dozens here defending him. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #19

I've seen the name around and chose not to click -- because of the name. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #32

i remember the thread. one of the biggest fight threads.... seabeyond Mar 2012 #40

Uhmmm, okay. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #24

So, have you signed this petition? countryjake Mar 2012 #25

you sound like you've been listening to hannity at work certainot Mar 2012 #28

Let us know when the democrats start using Bill Mahr to legislate sufrommich Mar 2012 #33

Allow me to sum up your critics: "Only RUSHBOT infiltrators protest sexist remarks from the Left!" Zalatix Mar 2012 #35

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #39

Well, so far the defense of false equivalency is so shallow as to be laughable Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #49

Do you ProSense Mar 2012 #51

Please quote me accurately. I wrote Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #54

I checked ProSense Mar 2012 #62

NOT BULLSHIT. I've been called a Rushbot because of this. FACT!!! Zalatix Mar 2012 #52

Again ProSense Mar 2012 #63

"Only RUSHBOT infiltrators protest sexist remarks from the Left!" seabeyond Mar 2012 #64

No, they are accused of being rushbots and agents of the Right. Zalatix Mar 2012 #65

so, all the years i have criticized and called out the mahers, sterns, flints, seabeyond Mar 2012 #66

Really, you should. Zalatix Mar 2012 #69

I think ProSense Mar 2012 #71

you said... allow me to sum up your critics seabeyond Mar 2012 #73

No ProSense Mar 2012 #78

ah, thanks prosense. that was the clarification i needed seabeyond Mar 2012 #79

You are happy to wallow in ignorance. Two of us have refuted you. Zalatix Mar 2012 #67

And ProSense Mar 2012 #72

Yawn. Ignorance is bliss. I've been through the crap you say doesn't happen. Zalatix Mar 2012 #77

And here's another example of why you are wrong. Zalatix Mar 2012 #95

I think Maher may start to get the picture. mmonk Mar 2012 #36

schultz does not even come close to being aligned with others. maher? seabeyond Mar 2012 #61

He has both a libertarian and tit for tat streak. mmonk Mar 2012 #75

i agree with that, too. another thing, a continual statement that either moore or maher seabeyond Mar 2012 #76

I get what you're saying and agree - not sure if the comparison works this time though TBF Mar 2012 #37

the paragraph is perfect. it isnt about being comparable. it is about being consistent. nt seabeyond Mar 2012 #42

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #43

I just agree that we should hold ourselves to a high standard as well. TBF Mar 2012 #50

I completely ProSense Mar 2012 #56

Not boycotting someone is NOT giving him a pass. There IS something inbetween. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #44

that is where so much is going wrong in the discussion. limbaugh and maher are not the same. seabeyond Mar 2012 #57

Has anyone in this forum boycotted the anti-semitic, domestic abuser, vile language Mel Gibson? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #47

The right wing is taking a beating over Rush's remarks Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #48

I dunno. If Rush was a doctrinaire liberal would he have been as strongly condemned? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2012 #55

Are ProSense Mar 2012 #60

perhaps not by all liberals SwampG8r Mar 2012 #80

At present ProSense Mar 2012 #82

Wow TBF Mar 2012 #68

i do get heartened seeing the number of people that have their line of appropriate seabeyond Mar 2012 #70

Well said! We must ignore sexism from anyone in our camp or the Right wins! Zalatix Mar 2012 #93

This LWer thinks Maher is an asshole. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #74

oh brotherrrrr fascisthunter Mar 2012 #81

I'll never get over a U.S. that tortures which makes me "out" just1voice Mar 2012 #83

they are both wrong peasant one Mar 2012 #84