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In reply to the discussion: JFK Conference: Mark Lane Addressed the Secret Government’s Role in the Assassination [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)122. Oliver Stone: JFK conspiracy deniers are in denial
Should have been on the front page...
JFK conspiracy deniers are in denial
By Oliver Stone
November 21, 2013
Living through the news media assault of the past few weeks leading up to this 50th year's commemoration marking the violent end of JFK's presidency, I'm amazed there is any single adult left in the USA who would think that Lee Harvey Oswald was the one and only assassin.
SNIP...
We're supposed to accept all that even though:
» More than 50 witnesses testified at the time to the Warren Commission that they heard or saw a shot coming from that fence area to the front of the president.
» The Assassination Records Review Board found that over 40 witnesses in two locations saw a large avulsive (i.e. penetrating outward) wound in the rear of JFK's skull. This includes highly qualified medical personnel at hospitals in Dallas and Bethesda, as well as FBI agents James Sibert and Frank O'Neill, who were at the autopsy in 1963 and restated it to the board. This wound again indicates an exit wound from a shot to the front. Conclusion: The president was shot from at least two sides, front and back not one location.
» An accidental film made that day, the Zapruder film, shows a sequence of motions that indicate five, probably six shots fired. It also shows that when the president is shot in the back by the "single bullet," that he's moving forward while Connally is still holding his Stetson hat, which is impossible if Connally was hit by the same bullet in his right wrist. The governor himself said he was not hit by the same bullet as Kennedy and added, "I do not for one second believe the conclusions of the Warren Commission."
Yet the mainstream media in recent weeks tell us more strongly than ever that Oswald, with his twisted motives, did it alone with his Mannlicher-Carcano Word War II rifle. What kind of history are they talking about? Not the one that is perhaps too dark for them to deal with and unsettling to their smug belief in some form of American exceptionalism, by which our politics are unflawed by such corruption. Is this why the media, with very few exceptions, have not allowed any serious presentation of the evidence against their official story from qualified pathologists, scientists, photographic and ballistics experts, and doctors who disagree?
As Friday approaches, please take a moment to remember that no professional marksman has replicated the Warren Commission scenario with Oswald's flawed rifle. To my knowledge, there have been at least four attempts with professionals to simulate the shooting without that rifle. No person ever achieved what the commission said Oswald did on the first try, i.e., attain two of three direct hits in the head and shoulder area to Kennedy in six seconds. This alleged shooting has been achieved only with computer simulations.
In the face of this recent onslaught on the truth, let us be very exact about Oswald's alleged guilt. He was never given a trial, either staged or fair. As such, he should always be identified as the alleged assassin.
History is a struggle of the memory. But when the counter evidence is stifled, we are closer to a Soviet-era manufacturing of history in which the mainstream media deeply discredit our country and continue to demean our common sense. We must always question those who tell us what to think.
SOURCE:
http://www.freep.com/article/20131121/ENT01/311210074/Oliver-Stone--JFK-conspiracy-deniers-are-in-denial?source=nletter-entertainment
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JFK Conference: Mark Lane Addressed the Secret Government’s Role in the Assassination [View all]
Octafish
Nov 2013
OP
I see. You're the type of person who argues that you can't prove George Washington really existed.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#69
More boring cut-n-paste from Octa who refuses to answer why they believe the HSCA
stopbush
Nov 2013
#98
Please look at YOUR post #7 in this thread: "CIA Director Bush helped destroy HSCA investigation."
stopbush
Nov 2013
#105
Blakey believes the mob was involved and will probably go to his grave believing that.
stopbush
Dec 2013
#172
Don't understand why certain DUers don't appreciate the BFEE connections to Dealey Plaza.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#106
Odd is how that same George HW Bush in Dallas Nov. 22, 1963 shows up to head CIA 12 years later.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#145
Like your exchange with Jim DiEugenio? You did all you could to drive him off.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#149
Speak plainly, sir. Are you accusing me of being here under false pretenses?
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#150
Or leave these foolish games and Meta distractions aside and start dealing with the evidence already
Octafish
Nov 2013
#151
No, I have not been 'payed' or paid to write about the assassination of President Kennedy.
Octafish
Dec 2013
#179
There's a good analysis of the Parrott memo in Russ Baker's book 'Family of Secrets'
Mc Mike
Dec 2013
#186
I'm sorry that you sometimes take so much flack and displays of antipathy for posting good info.
Mc Mike
Dec 2013
#190
The problem for them is that no matter how they try to discredit ANYONE who doesn't march in
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#53
journal.. feh. you're no REAL journalist man... you've never even been in a shootout!!1111
dionysus
Nov 2013
#57
E. Hunt was such an upstanding man. Now I'm convinced, Hunt denied it, therefore it must be true.
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#55
"So much effort to prevent people from speaking their minds on this historical tragedy."
zappaman
Nov 2013
#56
Most of us, a majority of the people, want to see bullshit countered and don't everything their
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#65
E Howard Hunt planted fake cables in WH safe to make it look like JFK ordered Diem assassination...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#141
CIA caught red-handed in HSCA safe, a pattern of obstruction of justice in JFK assassination.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#142
Wow, thank you for that. Tampering with evidence. Yet nothing was done about it, and some wonder why
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#144
I don't know what Brehm said, but Lane interviewed him on videotape. It's on You Tube.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#109
You've got the wrong book. The CIA went after Lane's idiocies in in his POS book
stopbush
Dec 2013
#153
Guilt by association is un-American. Lane is an attorney who represented two clients.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#28
It's easy. Mark Lane says we don't know the whole truth, but it looks like CIA conspiracy.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#38
I watched the 'Firing Line' debate between Lane and Buckley on YouTube the other day
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#6
It doesn't matter, but I believe Mark Lane is Jewish. He also is an attorney...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#41
Mark Lane's involvement with Liberty Lobby references the JFK assassination.
avaistheone1
Nov 2013
#50
I'm pretty new to all the JFK conspiracy stuff, about the past 6-7 years or so. I was only 9 months
Ghost in the Machine
Nov 2013
#73
YOU are a DU treasure, Octafish, keep the info coming. I look forward to your next reporting.
mother earth
Nov 2013
#47
And yet when he was a part of the HSCA investigation, he agreed that the head wounds
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#51
Looks like you've got a host of Hugh Aynesworth wannabees in this thread Sir-K&R, NGU
bobthedrummer
Nov 2013
#44
I finally got around to reading Lane's Rush to Judgment in the mid-70s. I usually save books but
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#75
Seems after forty years, Lane's still working to get more than two pebbles in a straight line
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#115
A spoon of barley tossed into a barrel of water makes mighty thin gruel. Here's the testimony
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#129
The Chicago Plot involved a tipster named ''Lee.'' And the DIA harrassed Edwin Black.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#132
Apparently, Veciana's death was misreported, according to Vince Palamara.
robertpaulsen
Dec 2013
#193
Mr. Lane credited himself on that one! Said it should've been called 'The Mark Lane Bill.' LOL!
Octafish
Nov 2013
#120
It was, indeed, Oliver Stone's "JFK" that got Congress to pass the "JFK Act"
red dog 1
Nov 2013
#125