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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 05:17 PM Nov 2013

About these infernal Hillary versus Liz kerfluffles-- [View all]

I've been flying a Warren banner around here for some time. And ya know what?

For me, at the most fundamental level, it's not about Warren. Nor about Hillary. It's not about personalities at all.

It's about the progressive versus the corporate side of the party. Liz Warren may even not turn out to be the best representative of my style of progressive populism.

Right now, though, she's the one standing up to the bankers; she's the one speaking out for an expansion of Social Security. She seems to better express my views, and in particular my views on economic policy, at this point than anyone else on the national scene.

Right now, her name symbolizes those views. It's sort of like a shorthand. If she doesn't run, and someone else comes along, espouses true liberal principles and appears electable, I'll get off the Warren wagon in an instant to support that person. Just right now, though, I don't see who that person might be. I don't think it's Biden.

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I've been reading a lot about Martin O'Malley and like him a lot. I have to worry I'm not being monmouth3 Nov 2013 #1
At this stage, he has zero name recognition-- Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #2
Using Sarah the Tarah as an example is not fair-a (sorry). Sarah's warm homebody rhett o rick Nov 2013 #5
(Un)fair enough. Another example-- Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #6
That's a better example. But I think my point is (never sure) that some big money has to like you rhett o rick Nov 2013 #9
I've always said that Obama is the furthest-left President Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #14
I agree. I also think they thought he would totally fall on his face, of course with the help of rhett o rick Nov 2013 #15
I think Big Money is OK with Hill. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #16
I dont disagree. We will be able to tell what their strategy is rhett o rick Nov 2013 #17
It may be that their game is just to scotch anyone on the left, and then Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #18
Agreed. The left has no other choice than to run with Sen Warren in 2016. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #19
Even party favorites - like the man given the 1988 keynote speech, Bill Clinton, karynnj Nov 2013 #20
My sentiments exactly. n/t JimDandy Nov 2013 #3
Agree whole-heartedly. djean111 Nov 2013 #4
I don' want to "slow down" the Democratic Party's movement to the Right I want to REVERSE it. Vincardog Nov 2013 #8
+1,000 Scuba Nov 2013 #10
I agree, the "inevitable" chorus sill not agree. IMO Vincardog Nov 2013 #7
I prefer infernal "kerfuffle" versus "kerfluffle" kerfuffles. Interminable ones, too. alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #11
Rec! And no, it aint Biden. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #12
du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #13
Well that's because you're concerned with ISSUES Jack......... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #21
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