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Showing Original Post only (View all)Uh Oh! It's Nader: "21 Ways Why Canada's Health Care is Better."--Any DU Canadians Care to Discuss? [View all]
Dear America:Costly complexity is baked into Obamacare. No health insurance system is without problems but Canadian style single-payer full Medicare for all is simple, affordable, comprehensive and universal.
In the early 1960s, President Lyndon Johnson enrolled 20 million elderly Americans into Medicare in six months. There were no websites. They did it with index cards!
Below please find 21 Ways the Canadian Health Care System is Better than Obamacare.
Repeal Obamacare and replace it with the much more efficient single-payer, everybody in, nobody out, free choice of doctor and hospital.
Love, Canada
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Number 21:
In Canada, everyone is covered automatically at birth everybody in, nobody out.
In the United States, under Obamacare, 31 million Americans will still be uninsured by 2023 and millions more will remain underinsured.
Number 20:
In Canada, the health system is designed to put people, not profits, first.
In the United States, Obamacare will do little to curb insurance industry profits and will actually enhance insurance industry profits.
Number 19:
In Canada, coverage is not tied to a job or dependent on your income rich and poor are in the same system, the best guaranty of quality.
In the United States, under Obamacare, much still depends on your job or income. Lose your job or lose your income, and you might lose your existing health insurance or have to settle for lesser coverage.
Number 18:
In Canada, health care coverage stays with you for your entire life.
In the United States, under Obamacare, for tens of millions of Americans, health care coverage stays with you for as long as you can afford your share.
Number 17:
In Canada, you can freely choose your doctors and hospitals and keep them. There are no lists of in-network vendors and no extra hidden charges for going out of network.
In the United States, under Obamacare, the in-network list of places where you can get treated is shrinking thus restricting freedom of choice and if you want to go out of network, you pay for it.
Number 16:
In Canada, the health care system is funded by income, sales and corporate taxes that, combined, are much lower than what Americans pay in premiums.
In the United States, under Obamacare, for thousands of Americans, its pay or die if you cant pay, you die. Thats why many thousands will still die every year under Obamacare from lack of health insurance to get diagnosed and treated in time.
Number 15:
In Canada, there are no complex hospital or doctor bills. In fact, usually you dont even see a bill.
In the United States, under Obamacare, hospital and doctor bills will still be terribly complex, making it impossible to discover the many costly overcharges.
Number 14:
In Canada, costs are controlled. Canada pays 10 percent of its GDP for its health care system, covering everyone.
In the United States, under Obamacare, costs continue to skyrocket. The U.S. currently pays 18 percent of its GDP and still doesnt cover tens of millions of people.
Number 13:
In Canada, it is unheard of for anyone to go bankrupt due to health care costs.
In the United States, under Obamacare, health care driven bankruptcy will continue to plague Americans.
Number 12:
In Canada, simplicity leads to major savings in administrative costs and overhead.
In the United States, under Obamacare, complexity will lead to ratcheting up administrative costs and overhead.
Number 11:
In Canada, when you go to a doctor or hospital the first thing they ask you is: Whats wrong?
In the United States, the first thing they ask you is: What kind of insurance do you have?
Number 10:
In Canada, the government negotiates drug prices so they are more affordable.
In the United States, under Obamacare, Congress made it specifically illegal for the government to negotiate drug prices for volume purchases, so they remain unaffordable.
Number 9:
In Canada, the government health care funds are not profitably diverted to the top one percent.
In the United States, under Obamacare, health care funds will continue to flow to the top. In 2012, CEOs at six of the largest insurance companies in the U.S. received a total of $83.3 million in pay, plus benefits.
Number 8:
In Canada, there are no necessary co-pays or deductibles.
In the United States, under Obamacare, the deductibles and co-pays will continue to be unaffordable for many millions of Americans.
Number 7:
In Canada, the health care system contributes to social solidarity and national pride.
In the United States, Obamacare is divisive, with rich and poor in different systems and tens of millions left out or with sorely limited benefits.
Number 6:
In Canada, delays in health care are not due to the cost of insurance.
In the United States, under Obamacare, patients without health insurance or who are underinsured will continue to delay or forgo care and put their lives at risk.
Number 5:
In Canada, nobody dies due to lack of health insurance.
In the United States, under Obamacare, many thousands will continue to die every year due to lack of health insurance.
Number 4:
In Canada, an increasing majority supports their health care system, which costs half as much, per person, as in the United States. And in Canada, everyone is covered.
In the United States, a majority many for different reasons oppose Obamacare.
Number 3:
In Canada, the tax payments to fund the health care system are progressive the lowest 20 percent pays 6 percent of income into the system while the highest 20 percent pays 8 percent.
In the United States, under Obamacare, the poor pay a larger share of their income for health care than the affluent.
Number 2:
In Canada, the administration of the system is simple. You get a health care card when you are born. And you swipe it when you go to a doctor or hospital. End of story.
In the United States, Obamacares 2,500 pages plus regulations (the Canadian Medicare Bill was 13 pages) is so complex that then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said before passage we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.
Number 1:
In Canada, the majority of citizens love their health care system.
In the United States, the majority of citizens, physicians, and nurses prefer the Canadian type system single-payer, free choice of doctor and hospital , everybody in, nobody out.
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Uh Oh! It's Nader: "21 Ways Why Canada's Health Care is Better."--Any DU Canadians Care to Discuss? [View all]
KoKo
Nov 2013
OP
GM could easily have fixed them, as always it was a corporate decision made
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#4
In the end, all that matters are the corporations, they can afford to buy the narrative.
Autumn
Nov 2013
#6
"Repeal and replace" is the motto of Republicans and their asswipe allies on the left. nt
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#2
I intend to "make" single payer a reality. What Republican plan do you intend to settle for next?
WowSeriously
Nov 2013
#87
No. People who prefer the ACA to the current status quo aren't calling for it to be repealed.
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#101
Conservatives are not normally prone to praising the Canadian health care system
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#9
What are the incorrect statements regarding the differences between the two systems?
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#25
No, what you're not grasping is that there is no "single payer" button that one
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#100
If you can't afford to make use of the insurance you are forced to buy it's not really "universal"
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#138
The financial reality of an under $8.00 minumum wage and sub 30 hour work weeks
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#142
It all sounds good to me, of course I'm not Canadian so I only get to buy insurance.
Autumn
Nov 2013
#12
Of course, such thoughts occurred to Nader only under a Democratic Administration.
WinkyDink
Nov 2013
#13
Snowden never had boxes in his garage during the Bush administration.
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2013
#68
Pretty sure Nader has always been a vocal supporter of a single payer system. nt
eqfan592
Nov 2013
#50
The bidness of 'murika is bidness. Bidness must be free from governmental regulation and oversight
indepat
Nov 2013
#17
That's what the insurance companies lobbyists that wrote their provisions in the ACA said...n/t
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#29
I know what you mean, KoKo. Seems like the perfect opportunity to compare the two.
LuvNewcastle
Nov 2013
#37
I didn't think I would have to explain it to anyone. as has been pointed out elsewhere in this
niyad
Nov 2013
#141
LOL, "this asshole" wants single payer. Count me in. and about 75% of posters here! n-t
Logical
Nov 2013
#40
Medicaid expansion is doing great things in Democratic States, but not in the States of the
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#103
"the poor pay a larger share of their income for health care than the affluent"
NoOneMan
Nov 2013
#130
Same with me, I ask a lot also. They love it. And how many want Aetna up there to replace....
Logical
Nov 2013
#39
He prefers for profit insurance over his health care (judging by his posts) with only one caveat,
Dragonfli
Nov 2013
#76
One Canadian tourist practically shouted to me "Obamacare is NEVER going to work!"
ErikJ
Nov 2013
#38
i got into a conversation with a canadian a couple of weeks ago. that person told me that if a
locdlib
Nov 2013
#60
My grandma waited about 6 months to get knee replacement surgery, and that's in the US...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2013
#116
I love NHS and will happily pay more to make sure everyone is covered. Including non-citizens.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#77
Several other States will join Vermont, but ACA does not allow Vermont or any State to create
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#105
Something is better than nothing. Especially if the future promises improvement
quakerboy
Nov 2013
#143
how long has canada been at it? ACA hasnt even officially started yet and he is comparing
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#79
All I have to say, is that our national system didn't come about overnight either,
polly7
Nov 2013
#80
Number 22: Because of the idiot who ran on the Green Ticket in 2000 and gave us 8 years
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#83
Ignoring the fact the Gore actually won Florida but failed to call for a statewide recount
WowSeriously
Nov 2013
#88
So then why demand that States spend millions during the interim? Why not let us have single
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#104