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kpete

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Sun Nov 24, 2013, 10:54 AM Nov 2013

JUAN COLE: The decade-long Neoconservative plot to take the US to war against Iran foiled [View all]

The decade-long Neoconservative plot to take the United States to war against Iran appears to have been foiled.

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In 2003, the Neocon chickenhawks, most of whom had never worn a uniform or had a parent who did, joked that “everyone wants to go to Baghdad; real men want to go to Tehran.” When people have to talk about being “real men,” it is a pretty good sign that they are 98-pound weaklings.

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All through the Cheney-Bush administration, repeated leaks from the Pentagon to Sy Hersh and other investigative journalists warned that machinations were afoot to draw the US into a war against Iran, as an outgrowth of the illegal and aggressive attack on and occupation of Iraq. The Neocons plotted against the lives of our children until their last day in office, in January of 2009.

After seeing what Bush did to Iraq, Tehran ramped up its nuclear enrichment program, in hopes of making the point that if the US looked like it might try to invade (which it often looked like), Iran might go for broke and come up with a small nuclear device. In 2003 when Khatami made the peace proposal, Iran had just declared a small set of nuclear experiments. As of 2006, it began serious nuclear enrichment activities, though UN inspectors have never found evidence of a nuclear weapons program.

As Secretary of State John Kerry pointed out Saturday night, if the Bush administration had accepted iran’s 2003 proposal, the rancor, saber-rattling, sanctions and the rapid advances in Iran’s nuclear program could have been avoided.
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The neo-cons have been whipped malaise Nov 2013 #1
Well, most of 'em are chickenhawks anyway, so all they know how to do is talk tough. calimary Nov 2013 #10
That tough talk totally works on the low-info flag worshippers, though. Iggo Nov 2013 #27
It's a continuing battle with those monsters! LongTomH Nov 2013 #21
Which is why Netanyahu is crying like a fucking baby this morning. tridim Nov 2013 #2
"Netanyahu crying like a fucking baby." Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #4
more like he's squealing like a pig - which he is 2banon Nov 2013 #23
I guess he's not happy about losing his handout. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #28
do you suppose that's why bebe the pig is threatening to attack Iran? (what a fucking lunatic) 2banon Nov 2013 #36
It would not surprise me. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #37
you and I are in agreement.. 2banon Nov 2013 #38
Every wrench in The War Machine is annabanana Nov 2013 #3
Recommend. A very good read! KoKo Nov 2013 #5
Remember the neocons outed Valerie Plame BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #6
Oh if only there was some jail time for The BushCo. Regime. SoapBox Nov 2013 #7
Had I been Barack Obama Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #47
... it ain't over yet ... Myrina Nov 2013 #8
This can not be overstated. nt stillwaiting Nov 2013 #9
Well, what I'd say then is - "okay, fine, then! YOU GUYS GO FIRST!!!!" calimary Nov 2013 #13
I share your contempt for these assholes. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #14
Eloquently put. ChazInAz Nov 2013 #15
calimary kpete Nov 2013 #20
Well said, calimary NastyRiffraff Nov 2013 #25
contradicta....LOL grasswire Nov 2013 #30
Exactly this, calimary. ladyVet Nov 2013 #32
Ka-Pow! blackspade Nov 2013 #40
You, in one post. dredged up all of the horror I felt for those myrna minx Nov 2013 #42
Spot on madokie Nov 2013 #43
righteous!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #46
There you go again blaming Bush!!! Heather MC Nov 2013 #11
I am grateful for a post that tells the real story MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #12
Yes, I share your worry over this nt Tumbulu Nov 2013 #16
Good point! nikto Nov 2013 #39
Egg Zac Lee the same deal that was on the table for W, Rice, Cheney, & Rummy in 2003 Botany Nov 2013 #17
How is the mic going to take this? polichick Nov 2013 #18
rest assured, they will continue to whack the hornet's nest every possible chance spanone Nov 2013 #19
Then the proper response is: "YOU FIRST!!!!" calimary Nov 2013 #33
We are not out of the Neo-con con game yet, but this treaty is a big step. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #22
For now Gman Nov 2013 #24
my fear is what Netanyahu might do. northoftheborder Nov 2013 #26
Kick and Recommend! countryjake Nov 2013 #29
For now n2doc Nov 2013 #31
Well, then that's when we should start getting LOUDER: "You FIRST!" calimary Nov 2013 #34
Good point. blackspade Nov 2013 #41
They have not been vanquished. roamer65 Nov 2013 #35
Since I've seen Ben Cardin criticizing the deal NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #44
I might be the lone voice here but I think this is also a facesaving thing for the US. PFunk Nov 2013 #45
We were all for Irans' Nuclear Program HoosierCowboy Nov 2013 #48
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