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karynnj

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20. Even party favorites - like the man given the 1988 keynote speech, Bill Clinton,
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:57 AM
Nov 2013

had low name recognition 3 years before he ran - and won - and became a household name.

Some that I had heard of 3 years before, I heard of in very different context. I knew Dean was Governor of Vermont and a doctor - mostly because we vacationed there every summer. Of course, like most my age, the image when I heard the name John Kerry - was that of a 27 year old, with lots of very dark hair, who eloquently, patriotically and morally spoke out before the SFRC.

However, the media after NH was clearly leaning for a super Tuesday victory for the man they called "Bill Clinton without the bimbo eruptions" and who they referred to as "sunny". Their coverage was so optimistic, happy and positive - compared to the completely unenthusiastic coverage of Kerry. Had he been more impressive in the debates or in person, he might have become President - even though only a wonk (or a North Carolinian) would have heard of him 3 years out.

The really good thing about NH and Iowa is that they CAN be won by a candidate with less money, party support and less media hype. In spite of revisionist history - it happened in 2004 - where Kerry had so little money he had to loan his campaign the money, and he had less party support and a media that had not like him since 1971! A more accepted example is Jimmy Carter.

This time it may not happen. Imagine the guts and conviction in oneself that it would take to spend most of 2014 and 2016 campaigning in Iowa and NH and raising enough money to be viable even in those states. Most people can not loan their campaigns $6 million as Kerry did. It may well be that almost all big Democratic donors will back HRC from the get go. However, as 2008 shows, surprises can happen.

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I've been reading a lot about Martin O'Malley and like him a lot. I have to worry I'm not being monmouth3 Nov 2013 #1
At this stage, he has zero name recognition-- Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #2
Using Sarah the Tarah as an example is not fair-a (sorry). Sarah's warm homebody rhett o rick Nov 2013 #5
(Un)fair enough. Another example-- Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #6
That's a better example. But I think my point is (never sure) that some big money has to like you rhett o rick Nov 2013 #9
I've always said that Obama is the furthest-left President Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #14
I agree. I also think they thought he would totally fall on his face, of course with the help of rhett o rick Nov 2013 #15
I think Big Money is OK with Hill. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #16
I dont disagree. We will be able to tell what their strategy is rhett o rick Nov 2013 #17
It may be that their game is just to scotch anyone on the left, and then Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #18
Agreed. The left has no other choice than to run with Sen Warren in 2016. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #19
Even party favorites - like the man given the 1988 keynote speech, Bill Clinton, karynnj Nov 2013 #20
My sentiments exactly. n/t JimDandy Nov 2013 #3
Agree whole-heartedly. djean111 Nov 2013 #4
I don' want to "slow down" the Democratic Party's movement to the Right I want to REVERSE it. Vincardog Nov 2013 #8
+1,000 Scuba Nov 2013 #10
I agree, the "inevitable" chorus sill not agree. IMO Vincardog Nov 2013 #7
I prefer infernal "kerfuffle" versus "kerfluffle" kerfuffles. Interminable ones, too. alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #11
Rec! And no, it aint Biden. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #12
du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #13
Well that's because you're concerned with ISSUES Jack......... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #21
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