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In reply to the discussion: My 911 Call, The "Attempted Murder" of My Daughter, & Oppression of the Family Death Penalty [View all]Land Shark
(6,348 posts)76. Thanks for the compliment, tho I tend to doubt my work has anything to do with it
Instead, I can see that the system generally treats all cases of injury to children with a high level of seriousness, to the point where, as in this case, it overshoots reality. There's some desire to hit back, and hit back very hard, against anyone accuse-able of hurting children. In this case, they want to hit back so hard that it will hurt the children themselves, if they keep it up. Here again, it appears they rationalize this my "erring" on the side (in their minds) of protecting the physical safety of children, at the expense of their minds and hearts.
Karita's treating physician (who was involved in the commitment too) says that many officials involved in CPS proceedings simply don't understand the medical science of mental illness and over-react because of it.
I've asked if there is any danger to Iida in a visitation, and the professional response has been that the question doesn't even make sense: it is not possible to say that my daughter is under any kind of increased danger, based on the past, even if decompensation is assumed. the most likely thing, even in severe decompensation, is just severe depression, as shown in over 100 days of severe decompensation languishing in jail: she never had any aggressive acts or threats toward anyone, at any time.
That being said, no living human being is without risk, including everyone replying to this OP and myself. So, it's not honest to say there's no danger, either, but that fact doesn't really get us anywhere because it is true for every human being. Bottom line is that there's a slightly elevated risk relative to the general population, but it is not specific to the children or anyone else, and lots of people legitimately walking the streets, especially young men, are more dangerous. (See also other replies where I point out that even though it is very difficult to get someone committed for average citizens, the opposite is true for NGRI cases, and the doctors in this case said they were committing simply to get her under a 5 year medical supervision program that they believe will be a good safeguard and help allow visitation. But that won't work in the end if CPS operates out of lay model of fear of the "criminally insane" rather than what the State's own experts say themselves about visitation and the real reasons and motivations for her commitment)
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My 911 Call, The "Attempted Murder" of My Daughter, & Oppression of the Family Death Penalty [View all]
Land Shark
Mar 2012
OP
I'm so sorry for everything that happened to your family. The Media looking for ratings are just
Justice wanted
Mar 2012
#1
Thanks. I don't expect hallmark cards (they don't make them for this anyway)
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#20
It's understandable that you have no words, for I struggled SO HARD to find words myself.
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#14
"Better safe than sorry" here means innocents get hurt. How's that fair or just?
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#124
k&r to mark to read later and get past wtf is going on with you guys I am so sorry.
uppityperson
Mar 2012
#7
The legal cases are already over, and I was/am the "one closest to the situation."
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#18
Because you're willing to give your opinion, may I get your input on the following?
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#54
Hello? These are interesting questions from Land Shark for you to answer
2 Much Tribulation
Mar 2012
#95
Even if either of you were Miz Clio and able to diagnose someone over the intertubes
EFerrari
Mar 2012
#89
Correct, there was no trial because the Prosecutor gave up, said he couldn't win at trial
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#55
Thank you robinlynne (it seems you found your "right words"); I appreciate it a lot! n/t
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#68
Paul I have to say all the work that you and Andy Stevens have done to bring about change in our
midnight
Mar 2012
#47
Thanks for the compliment, tho I tend to doubt my work has anything to do with it
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#76
This reminds me of what happened to a nurse right after F-5 tornado hit Joplin, MO
Bryn
Mar 2012
#51
THANK YOU! Can't everyone just accept that sometimes true tragedies occur, like that nurse?
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#58
This is disturbing on so many levels. I can't imagine how you've had the strength to handle
lib_wit_it
Mar 2012
#66
I'm so sorry your family is going through this. It must be very difficult.
GardeningGal
Mar 2012
#69
Don't you mean, "Thank you, and I apologize for asking you a question, the answer to which I would
lib_wit_it
Mar 2012
#78
Thanks for proving my point, again. I clearly explained the problem, and your failure to grasp
lib_wit_it
Mar 2012
#88
I'm sure they would have other roughly similar stories like those in the reply thread. nt
Land Shark
Mar 2012
#107