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Hoyer Finally Admits the Obvious: Health Care Bill Killed the Dems in 2010By: Phoenix Woman - FDL
Saturday March 10, 2012 6:45 am
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Finally, over two years after Vic Snyder resigned after FDL confirmed what internal polling told him about it, over two years after Martha Coakley went from a nineteen-point lead to a loss to Scott Brown in the space of four weeks in part because of it, and a year and a half after the Democrats lost the House in large part because of it, Steny Hoyer says, in the wake of a new study proving it: http://mysite.du.edu/~smasket/Nyhan_et_al_APR.pdf what everyone in Official Washington circles knows to be true but most of the time wont admit the health care bill was frigging kryptonite to the Democrats in 2009 and 2010:
A top Democrat acknowledged Thursday that President Obamas health care bill hurt his party in 2010. And a new study suggests it cost the Democrats something pretty specific: their House majority.
It was clearly a liability in the last election in terms of the publics fear, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday during a briefing with reporters.
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The study ran 10,000 simulations of a scenario in which all vulnerable Democrats voted against the health care bill and found that the rejections would have saved Democrats an average of 25 seats, which would have made the House parties close to a tie. (Republicans won 63 seats overall, but the study suggests around 25 of them would have been salvaged.)
In 62 percent of the simulations, Democrats were able to keep the House.
It was clearly a liability in the last election in terms of the publics fear, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday during a briefing with reporters.
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The study ran 10,000 simulations of a scenario in which all vulnerable Democrats voted against the health care bill and found that the rejections would have saved Democrats an average of 25 seats, which would have made the House parties close to a tie. (Republicans won 63 seats overall, but the study suggests around 25 of them would have been salvaged.)
In 62 percent of the simulations, Democrats were able to keep the House.
Dear Reader
What caused the members of Official Washingtons institutions, particularly those part of or linked to the institutional Democratic Party, to go after Jane Hamsher hammer and tongs?
Answer: Her insistence on pushing for at least a public option in the health care bill and her warnings that without a public option (which poll after poll showed was the most popular part of the health care reform proposal as originally conceived, but which Obama and the Dems dumped in order to please industry lobbyists), the bill would become a deadly stinky rotting albatross of a millstone around the Democrats collective necks in November of 2010.
She was right, she was proved right, and now Steny Hoyers finally admitted it.
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More: http://firedoglake.com/2012/03/10/come-saturday-morning-hoyer-finally-admits-the-obvious-health-care-bill-killed-the-dems-in-2010/
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Hoyer Finally Admits the Obvious: Health Care Bill Killed the Dems in 2010 - FDL [View all]
WillyT
Mar 2012
OP
I still don't forgive the Dem Pols for that legislative cop-out and betrayal to the insur. industry.
leveymg
Mar 2012
#2
GODDAMNIT!! The healthcare bill itself wasn't the problem.. It was the relentless,
annabanana
Mar 2012
#3
Not Really... Because When They Bailed On The Public Option, Many On The Left...
WillyT
Mar 2012
#27
They wouldn't have to push the "Spin" if they had done the will of the PEOPLE in the first place.
Vincardog
Mar 2012
#7
You are largely right, but here is some more to add to why the GOP has a good election in 2010.
RBInMaine
Mar 2012
#99
Leave it to Fire Dog Lake to cite a study that actually says the opposite of what they want.
LoZoccolo
Mar 2012
#25
You have to stand strong or stand down with this challenge to the status quo.
Faygo Kid
Mar 2012
#12
A public option may have not have been enough to change that. Much of the fear was about what
jwirr
Mar 2012
#16
Although the GOP ginned up opposition to the ACA by calling it a government takeover of healthcare,
bornskeptic
Mar 2012
#43
I think a public option without a dedicated revenue source was a horrible idea
Recursion
Mar 2012
#74
Backbone failure is what killed the dems. Especially failure on a public option
on point
Mar 2012
#35
"Democratic incumbents who supported health care reform were seen as more liberal on average ...
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2012
#48
The Republicans were able to carry on their propaganda campaign BECAUSE
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2012
#50
Not enough Dems spoke up for it. It was the spin by the RW that hurt Dems in 2010 and no anti-
nanabugg
Mar 2012
#54
The candidates who wanted to repeal the mandate also wanted to repeal guaranteed issue and community
BzaDem
Mar 2012
#62
I bet there are at least a few people wondering why so many don't bother with this site anymore.
Umbral
Mar 2012
#64
You, and maybe half a dozen others here are among the most beloved personages on this site.
Umbral
Mar 2012
#69
the reason PO and 2010 was a disaster was because THE LEFT HAD NO CLUE WHAT TEAM RUSHBO WAS
certainot
Mar 2012
#66
It wasn't "the Left" that didn't have a clue; it was the Establishment Dems
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2012
#87
but until now there has been no organized opposition to RW radio and i've been told for years
certainot
Mar 2012
#90
AM radio's core audience is no more than a single-digit percentage of the population
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2012
#93
actually for a lot of the last 15 yrs 15% to over 20% have said they get their news from talk radio
certainot
Mar 2012
#94
Why is no one mentioning the lies about "cutting Medicare" that were the critical factor
eridani
Mar 2012
#70
It was the Republicans successfully spewing lies about it that hurt the Dems in 2010, and...
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#80