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kiva

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80. You posted in a thread that was specifically about seniors working in

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 03:56 PM

Nov 2013

service jobs, so don't be so shocked when that's what people are talking about.

And I have no idea in what circumstances you would 'begrudge' a senior working for pay, a since descriptor such as "thoroughly conditioned consumers" is vague, regardless of your defense of the phrase. What about someone who has enough money to pay the bills but wants to go on vacation once in awhile? Is it OK if they drive somewhere and stay in a Motel 6, but not OK if they fly and then stay in a nice resort? Are they "conditioned consumers" in one case but not the other?

What if a senior could afford to buy clothes at KMart but wanted to be able to afford to buy a sweater from Dillards? Conditioned?

The fact that you think you know whether or not someone 'needs' to work do not make it so.

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"I See Old People" Taking Over The Service Job Economy [View all] TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 OP

Quite sick, yes. Laelth Nov 2013 #1

Fucking hell Cal Carpenter Nov 2013 #21

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I don't know what the answer is. Laelth Nov 2013 #45

I do think that would be a good one as well. It hasn't kept up at all. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #47

Quite. Not even close. Laelth Nov 2013 #48

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she's already on Social Security magical thyme Nov 2013 #89

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Yes, agreed! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #50

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lolz JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #70

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Your attitude used to be an enforced norm. noamnety Nov 2013 #82

Wow! Well done! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #84

And the future for all of us as America marches forward into full dystopia. Young people RKP5637 Nov 2013 #4

What young people are seeing is that they can't find a job now Marrah_G Nov 2013 #14

Yep, much as I said in my reply #19 to you just recently, the model is broken. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #23

Totally! Marrah_G Nov 2013 #24

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The problem is... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #38

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That is my plan too! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #46

Oh, I agree Stargazer09 Nov 2013 #81

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Agree CountAllVotes Nov 2013 #63

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