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In reply to the discussion: Remember this: Iran gave us Ronald Reagan. [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... was our leader then.
He was a victim as much as a part of the problems of that time period. He tried to constructively deal with it with efforts to encourage solar energy then, which sadly Reagan subsequently tore down that might have changed our role heavily in the future on the world stage for the decades to come had we transitioned earlier to less dependence on fossil fuels in those efforts.
Yes, Carter WAS a victim of the PTB's manipulation of events behind the scenes of the hostage taking crisis, arms deals, Contra aid, etc. where the PTB wanted him out of the way and wanted Reagan in as someone they could use for their games far more then.
How much of this was Iranians' fault? They aren't blameless, but they had entities that knew that it would be hard to hold on to power without the military might they inherited from the Shah and the U.S., which would go to nothing if they had no replacement military parts, etc. that were a part of that deal then. Now, they were trying to have military might to stand up to the heavy military might we were wielding and have wielded so much in recent years. If we weren't about pushing our way militarily every place, there perhaps would have been less incentive for them to do that deal then.
It's interesting to see the comments of Bani Sadr after the movie Argo's success here about how he and many other Iranians had fought against the continued occupation of the American embassy and this deal at that time. So much like internal dissension we have here over other entities having our country do bad things, they had their own dissension as well.
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/03/07/october-surprise-and-argo/
You could also put some blame on Carter for current world events from what Brezinski and his administration did to fight the Soviets when they were losing power in Afghanistan at the time. Some of that wasn't pretty either, and later would lead to Bin Laden and the Al Queda entities we have working against us today too. Carter did a lot of good things that time in trying to promote human rights, etc. in his fight against the Soviet Union's influence in so many other place where they trashed human rights for power much like we trashed countries for mineral rights for powerful private entities.