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Butch McQueen

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5. I think the country is so different than it was in 72

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 06:51 PM

Nov 2013

In 72 we still had a thriving middle class that felt safe and secure in their livelihoods and standard of living. We had a middle class that could look to the future and see opportunity for themselves and their children. McGovern represented change in that era and by and large folks were happy with where their lives were at. I may be wrong, but I'd like to believe that if you ran that election over again with today's economic realities in place that McGovern (or a McGovern type candidate) would handily defeat Nixon (or a candidate like him) regardless of the ratfucking. But then I'm an optimist!

Butch

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People who question a HRC nomination are just as committed to "winning" as HRC supporters. [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2013 OP

Can you prove that statement? I think back on every "McGovern lost, but won on principle" post msanthrope Nov 2013 #1

You've forgottten CREEP the Nixon "dirty tricks" squads of '72 Ken Burch Nov 2013 #2

I haven't. I just pointed out a prime example of ratfucking not a day ago-- msanthrope Nov 2013 #3

OK, Muskie would have won. But he was taken out by CREEP, not McGovern Ken Burch Nov 2013 #9

That's exactly what I said--the ratfucking went after Muskie first, because with his ability to draw msanthrope Nov 2013 #12

But you're confusing the issue by comparing it to the question of HRC now. Ken Burch Nov 2013 #14

I am not confusing anything. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #16

I think the country is so different than it was in 72 Butch McQueen Nov 2013 #5

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Groan............ Beacool Nov 2013 #6

''constant negativity against a fellow Democrat is wearing thin''... Whisp Nov 2013 #13

My intent here was dialogue, not bashing. Ken Burch Nov 2013 #15

2014. Iggo Nov 2013 #7

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