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Mon Nov 25, 2013, 07:43 AM Nov 2013

Krugman: If Obamacare can work in a state of 38 million people, it can work in America as a whole [View all]

California, Here We Come?

At a time like this, you really want a controlled experiment. What would happen if we unveiled a program that looked like Obamacare, in a place that looked like America, but with competent project management that produced a working website?

Well, your wish is granted. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you California.

Now, California isn’t the only place where Obamacare is looking pretty good. A number of states that are running their own online health exchanges instead of relying on HealthCare.gov are doing well. Kentucky’s Kynect is a huge success; so is Access Health CT in Connecticut. New York is doing O.K. And we shouldn’t forget that Massachusetts has had an Obamacare-like program since 2006, put into effect by a guy named Mitt Romney.

California is, however, an especially useful test case. First of all, it’s huge: if a system can work for 38 million people, it can work for America as a whole. Also, it’s hard to argue that California has had any special advantages other than that of having a government that actually wants to help the uninsured. When Massachusetts put Romneycare into effect, it already had a relatively low number of uninsured residents. California, however, came into health reform with 22 percent of its nonelderly population uninsured, compared with a national average of 18 percent.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/25/opinion/krugman-california-here-we-come.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131125&_r=0

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Well of course mandatory private insurance is going to make people sign up for private insurance Fumesucker Nov 2013 #1
So what you mean is that people would not have signed up without the mandate, right? JoePhilly Nov 2013 #2
I read that as whether people can get care without going bankrupt HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #3
So let's put the blame on the GOP Governors in those states ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #7
What's needed is rather more than a blame the politicians game HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #10
Lovely talk. What matters is that the Republican Party does not care whether people JDPriestly Nov 2013 #30
I really do understand the nature of campaigning. HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #31
“Identifying Problem?" busterbrown Nov 2013 #37
Some would and some wouldn't n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #5
Under single payer if you don't you go to jail. joshcryer Nov 2013 #12
I have family in Europe I stay in contact with Fumesucker Nov 2013 #34
Many people would not have. Many people never did. Many people won't sign up, even with the merrily Nov 2013 #23
You have a flare for ambiguity. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #25
Most people can understand what I posted. merrily Nov 2013 #27
Yes, that many people did things, or also never did them. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #28
YOU ARE CORRECT Skittles Nov 2013 #36
Then why do polls show that MA residents are very happy with their insurance? n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #8
Yes, and there MUST be mandates to get everyone in. But most get subsidies. It is a STEP. And, RBInMaine Nov 2013 #14
Ain't it the truth?! Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #4
Of course it can work - TBF Nov 2013 #6
And Canada proves that a country of 35 million can make single-payer work; the UK that a country of pampango Nov 2013 #9
Agreed. Now please tell us how you are going to get the US House to approve that. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #15
I hope that is a rhetorical request. pampango Nov 2013 #21
But if the ACA isn't killed by SCOTUS we'll NEVER get Single Payer! joshcryer Nov 2013 #11
We will not get national single payer anytime soon. End the pipedream and do what is possible. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #16
We'll get it faster than Canada, I bet. joshcryer Nov 2013 #17
15-20? pangaia Nov 2013 #18
That's my cynical estimate. joshcryer Nov 2013 #19
Not quite. polly7 Nov 2013 #26
I was more going by Tommy Douglas' hospital care. joshcryer Nov 2013 #29
Vermont has started single payer. vinny9698 Nov 2013 #33
It's not about not being "done right" at the federal level frazzled Nov 2013 #13
We keep... DirtyDawg Nov 2013 #20
See what happens when you make Republicans irrelevant? Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #22
Romneycare proved Obamacare CAN work. However, single payer is the goal. merrily Nov 2013 #24
Love Dr. Krugman and his clear eyes. Hekate Nov 2013 #32
Short Term It's Fine colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #35
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