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Wounded Bear

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27. Except that...

Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:16 PM

Nov 2013

the original text of ACA precluded what VT has done. That was probably intentional.

Thankfully, verbiage was inserted that allowed waivers in favor of SP systems that met the minimum health coverage standards of the ACA. The fed effort very nearly torpedoed what VT was doing. I'm glad it was corrected before the bill was signed.

Again, I applaud VT and it's citizens and gov't for enacting this and wish them all well. I look forward to other states doing likewise.

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Who to thank for single payer in Vermont? Vermonters. [View all] cali Nov 2013 OP

What happens to Workers' Comp under the Vermont tsuki Nov 2013 #1

Meh... you guys just want to reclaim the "most liberal state" crown from us Bay Staters MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #2

Love MA and I love Boston. Lived there for 10 years before cali Nov 2013 #3

K&R Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #4

Agreed, electing sane folks not on loan from the corporations is fundemental TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #5

It's just that crediting the President for this isn't accurate cali Nov 2013 #6

"crediting the President for this isn't accurate" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #8

I don't see people here saying that. Maybe I missed it but what I've cali Nov 2013 #13

A waiver is available from the ACA FogerRox Nov 2013 #34

ACA is awesome? No, it has as many problems as it had the day our President signed it into law tavalon Nov 2013 #17

Don't forget Jonathan Gruber and William Hsiao. joshcryer Nov 2013 #7

this op is about how everyday Vermonters achieved single payer in Vermont cali Nov 2013 #9

More on Hsiao and Gruber and Vermont... PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #28

So Vermont was moving to SP without the ACA? thx uponit7771 Nov 2013 #10

VT was absolutely moving to single payer, long before the ACA cali Nov 2013 #11

As I've said before, may Vermont be our Saskatchewan and lead the way suffragette Nov 2013 #12

You gave me a lot of homework. tavalon Nov 2013 #18

I hope we see it, too. suffragette Nov 2013 #38

I'm kicking this because the wrong people- be it Obama or even Bernie- are cali Nov 2013 #14

Agreed. FogerRox Nov 2013 #35

Thank you, Vermonters. LWolf Nov 2013 #15

wish people stuck in crap states could share/pool with the Vermont plan Sunlei Nov 2013 #16

cutting out the for profit middlemen tavalon Nov 2013 #19

Congratulations are premature, no? geek tragedy Nov 2013 #20

no, it's not premature. It'll happen. cali Nov 2013 #21

What cost control mechanisms are in place? geek tragedy Nov 2013 #22

Hospital price increases have to be approved by a state run board cali Nov 2013 #24

Maryland and West Virginia do that as well. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #30

Unless a Republican gets elected President in 2016 and rescinds the waiver... n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #29

The ACA waiver doesnt happen until 2017 IIRC. FogerRox Nov 2013 #36

First off, kudos to VT for leading on this... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #23

part of the point of the op, is that the ACA had little to do with single payer cali Nov 2013 #25

Except that... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #27

Vermont was going single payer back in 2009 IIRC, the ACA stopped Vermont infact FogerRox Nov 2013 #37

Thank u Vermont!!! shenmue Nov 2013 #26

Single Payer movement in the era of Obamacare ProSense Nov 2013 #31

Vermont started down the road to single payer before the ACA cali Nov 2013 #33

Vermonters got an interesting view of how things worked Mopar151 Nov 2013 #32