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jeff47

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135. Please point to the word "never" in my posts.

Mon Nov 25, 2013, 04:35 PM

Nov 2013

I stand by my opinion and strong belief that the filibuster should not be removed as a tool of the minority in Congress in exchange for short term political gain. It's just stupid and will come back to bite us big time.

And I merely pointed out that Democrats don't make sufficient use of the filibuster to outweigh Republican abuse of it.

You will not find a more horrifically conservative nominee than Owen, and we did not stop her even though the filibuster was available. If we will not stop nominees like her, then there's no reason to keep the filibuster.

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The Filibuster rules change has passed [View all] malaise Nov 2013 OP

WOOO HOOO! napkinz Nov 2013 #1

Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2013 #2

Kick Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #3

It was necessary, but it's nothing to celebrate, IMO... Cooley Hurd Nov 2013 #4

Elections have consequences malaise Nov 2013 #5

I agree. Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #9

That simple malaise Nov 2013 #12

Yup YarnAddict Nov 2013 #14

This scares me too. Myrina Nov 2013 #51

Do you think Reid is capable of "ramming anything through" in the coming 3 years? Cal33 Nov 2013 #55

Reid is not that kinda guy. bvar22 Nov 2013 #129

They could have done it themselves if they had the majority. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #115

They think they are going to take it in 2014 YarnAddict Nov 2013 #123

This event doesn't enable or prevent them from doing so anyway. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #128

Agree. This cuts both ways. Adsos Letter Nov 2013 #24

Agree to an extent. ProSense Nov 2013 #35

...and Thomas demosincebirth Nov 2013 #91

Because if the Republicans win they wouldn't change the rules? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #39

Good point PatSeg Nov 2013 #74

Well, hell! If the GOP ever DOES take the Senate back, we'll just change it back for 'em-- lastlib Nov 2013 #107

Yep, if they want everything THEIR way, PatSeg Nov 2013 #122

We'll still have the White House. And demographics favor a (D) White House in the future. Hosnon Nov 2013 #71

It brings us one step closer to being a democratic country quakerboy Nov 2013 #110

It won't matter Heathen57 Nov 2013 #114

Here comes the progressive wet dream Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #6

Wha? All it changes is the rules for Executive Branch nominations frazzled Nov 2013 #13

+1,000 n/t malaise Nov 2013 #18

And with Boehner as Speaker, we still can't get any bills passed, even if BlueStreak Nov 2013 #81

Well, I'm glad you pointed that out. I've been listening to all the progressive SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #119

Democrats do not filibuster. jeff47 Nov 2013 #126

There is a 200 year history of using it. It should be preserved. We'll just have to agree to SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #130

There's justices Alito and Roberts. jeff47 Nov 2013 #131

Our party has used the filibuster many times. We used it to block many of SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #132

Didn't read far enough, huh? jeff47 Nov 2013 #133

You said that we had *never* used the filibuster. I provided information that showed we did. SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #134

Please point to the word "never" in my posts. jeff47 Nov 2013 #135

I took that to mean that we have never used it. If you meant it another way, then SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #136

Obviously, you're not so obvious Capt. Obvious. polichick Nov 2013 #21

The rules have changed: Reid pulls trigger on nuclear option ProSense Nov 2013 #7

Now Mitch won't go blind ... napkinz Nov 2013 #19

Harry took Mitch's political lube and Hubert Flottz Nov 2013 #43

Is Levin running for re-election? bluestate10 Nov 2013 #30

Thank God the answer is no. He's retiring after 36 years. Rowdyboy Nov 2013 #32

Yes...Yes...Yes MyOpinion-2 Nov 2013 #8

Excellent. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #10

Right on, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #11

Now things will get interesting! polichick Nov 2013 #15

k&r Little Star Nov 2013 #16

I'm genuinely stunned. This should have been done in January 2009, but Zorra Nov 2013 #17

Thank God. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #20

Republicans via the Tea Party overplayed their hand. no_hypocrisy Nov 2013 #22

In every fugging area malaise Nov 2013 #23

The GOP/teaparty is WEAK! tridim Nov 2013 #38

About time. Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #25

He shoots, he scores! HappyMe Nov 2013 #26

I stand amazed. Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #27

Outstanding! Now we can get those judges confirmed. MineralMan Nov 2013 #28

Harry Reid took his time but got the job done Gothmog Nov 2013 #29

BOOYAH! SUCK IT, MITCH! n/t backscatter712 Nov 2013 #31

Great news! lillypaddle Nov 2013 #33

Pryor and Levin badgolfer Nov 2013 #34

K&R wandy Nov 2013 #36

Are you sure this is a good idea? kudzu22 Nov 2013 #37

And Republicans wouldn't make this same change because.........? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #42

They almost did but we shamed them out it kudzu22 Nov 2013 #52

And you think they are less radical today than they were back then? jeff47 Nov 2013 #53

Maybe, maybe not kudzu22 Nov 2013 #64

Trent Lott didn't get it because he did not have the votes. jeff47 Nov 2013 #105

If there is a President Cruz we would be to fucked upaloopa Nov 2013 #45

I agree cilla4progress Nov 2013 #68

So a consistently hijacked Senate Plucketeer Nov 2013 #46

The day that Cruz is elected president will be the advent of a Theocracy. olegramps Nov 2013 #48

Yes quakerboy Nov 2013 #112

They say... Darkest before the dawn... SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2013 #40

Hooray! At last. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #41

Some of the points Reid brought up in his speech were stunning Ratty Nov 2013 #44

These points reflect what so many have forgotten Plucketeer Nov 2013 #54

Somewhere several angels Coolest Ranger Nov 2013 #47

Dems kickin' azzz flamingdem Nov 2013 #49

FINALLY REID GOES NUCLEAR!!!!! Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #50

Mark Pryor, tool: ProSense Nov 2013 #56

Apparently it is a requirement for Dems from Arkansas and Louisiana to act like Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #73

the pendulum swings both ways ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #57

nope scheming daemons Nov 2013 #58

if you say so... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #60

So according to you, the Democrats should do nothing Cleita Nov 2013 #61

we'll see how it turns out ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #80

for 200 years, minority parties never filibustered nominees scheming daemons Nov 2013 #83

when the Democrats were filibustering the Bush judicial nominees ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #88

GOP has filibustered 28 Obama nominees in 5 years scheming daemons Nov 2013 #98

not disagreeing with that at all... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #99

It didn't happen with every nominee Gore1FL Nov 2013 #116

Americans by 80-20 in polls hate the filibuster scheming daemons Nov 2013 #65

ok... we'll see... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #79

LOL Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #82

Two massive problems jeff47 Nov 2013 #127

K & R Liberal_Dog Nov 2013 #59

Hey, it's a rule.....it can be changed Uben Nov 2013 #62

Is it safe to.. adavid Nov 2013 #63

Yes, that would be safe to assume. To shut down this President and the majority of Americans mountain grammy Nov 2013 #92

Oh, I don't have a point... adavid Nov 2013 #124

I don't think it's simply spite malaise Nov 2013 #94

It was their stated purpose. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #117

Bad move Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #66

You call this "record bad press"? annabanana Nov 2013 #85

Seriously, trying to remember the last time we got "good press!" mountain grammy Nov 2013 #93

Quote: "Republicans are on track to blue14u Nov 2013 #101

Great strategy and timing cilla4progress Nov 2013 #67

I'm just wild about Harry! Politicub Nov 2013 #69

Funny...after all the sturm and drang cilla4progress Nov 2013 #70

It's far past time for all the shit 'pukes have been creating to be shoved up their collective arses indepat Nov 2013 #72

Oh Hell Yes!!!!!!!!! Blue Idaho Nov 2013 #75

MADE MY DAY!! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #76

OK NOW I believe it. 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #77

Finally! AndyA Nov 2013 #78

WHOA!!! Iggo Nov 2013 #84

k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #86

2014 congressional elections are even more important! UCmeNdc Nov 2013 #87

'Bought time we brought the war to them! CFLDem Nov 2013 #89

YAY!! YAY!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #90

Finally! You can't say we didn't try. This is way past due. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #95

amen. mcconnell has already said that dems will live to regret it. spanone Nov 2013 #96

He'll regret the elections next year when malaise Nov 2013 #97

I'm thinking McConnell is doing a bit of regretting at the moment Gore1FL Nov 2013 #118

Wow. I'm stunned. But glad! OnionPatch Nov 2013 #100

Hopefully, now that they've got their feet wet, the can kill the rest of the filibuster too AND grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #102

Good news! pacalo Nov 2013 #103

K&R gademocrat7 Nov 2013 #104

Hey, GOPee! Don't get so upset-- lastlib Nov 2013 #106

Long overdue 2naSalit Nov 2013 #108

The RW Freakout is funny. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #109

Now, where will the Conservatives in our Party hide?! Can't hide behind the always-obstructive GOP blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #111

Can we reverse five years, getting eight years work done in three? ffr Nov 2013 #113

Sometimes it seems the USA has just one problem, Republicans Coyotl Nov 2013 #120

YAY! Now I'm changing my sig to an anti-Gerrymander campaign! cprise Nov 2013 #121

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #125