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colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
35. Short Term It's Fine
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:08 PM
Nov 2013

But it is the Heritage Foundation's plan. We need to scrub profit out of health care, it does not belong there. Once again we're trying to stay well/alive, they're bottom line drives them. We're at loggerheads with our prime goals.

A health care company should be some office workers making solid middle class pay and bosses making not more than 2-3 times as much. Like it was until the 80's.

Right now it's just us among civilized countries and it's wrong that the 1st thing we now hear at a doctors office is how will you pay, can I see your insurance card, etc. I heard a lady relate that she, on a trip to Italy, broke her arm. She was treated, given a sling and some pain meds. Nobody asked for money, a card, nothing.

BTW other countries have plans that also cover vision and dental. I have dental insurance but it only plays half for anything big - which means every other year I seem to get dinged for $700-1200. It sucks but I can do it. What about others who are choosing between heat, food, and medicine?

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Well of course mandatory private insurance is going to make people sign up for private insurance Fumesucker Nov 2013 #1
So what you mean is that people would not have signed up without the mandate, right? JoePhilly Nov 2013 #2
I read that as whether people can get care without going bankrupt HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #3
So let's put the blame on the GOP Governors in those states ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #7
What's needed is rather more than a blame the politicians game HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #10
Lovely talk. What matters is that the Republican Party does not care whether people JDPriestly Nov 2013 #30
I really do understand the nature of campaigning. HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #31
“Identifying Problem?" busterbrown Nov 2013 #37
Some would and some wouldn't n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #5
Under single payer if you don't you go to jail. joshcryer Nov 2013 #12
I have family in Europe I stay in contact with Fumesucker Nov 2013 #34
Many people would not have. Many people never did. Many people won't sign up, even with the merrily Nov 2013 #23
You have a flare for ambiguity. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #25
Most people can understand what I posted. merrily Nov 2013 #27
Yes, that many people did things, or also never did them. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #28
YOU ARE CORRECT Skittles Nov 2013 #36
Then why do polls show that MA residents are very happy with their insurance? n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #8
Yes, and there MUST be mandates to get everyone in. But most get subsidies. It is a STEP. And, RBInMaine Nov 2013 #14
Ain't it the truth?! Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #4
Of course it can work - TBF Nov 2013 #6
And Canada proves that a country of 35 million can make single-payer work; the UK that a country of pampango Nov 2013 #9
Agreed. Now please tell us how you are going to get the US House to approve that. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #15
I hope that is a rhetorical request. pampango Nov 2013 #21
But if the ACA isn't killed by SCOTUS we'll NEVER get Single Payer! joshcryer Nov 2013 #11
We will not get national single payer anytime soon. End the pipedream and do what is possible. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #16
We'll get it faster than Canada, I bet. joshcryer Nov 2013 #17
15-20? pangaia Nov 2013 #18
That's my cynical estimate. joshcryer Nov 2013 #19
Not quite. polly7 Nov 2013 #26
I was more going by Tommy Douglas' hospital care. joshcryer Nov 2013 #29
Vermont has started single payer. vinny9698 Nov 2013 #33
It's not about not being "done right" at the federal level frazzled Nov 2013 #13
We keep... DirtyDawg Nov 2013 #20
See what happens when you make Republicans irrelevant? Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #22
Romneycare proved Obamacare CAN work. However, single payer is the goal. merrily Nov 2013 #24
Love Dr. Krugman and his clear eyes. Hekate Nov 2013 #32
Short Term It's Fine colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #35
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