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bettyellen

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25. thanks- I don't think they made a distinction back then - childhood schizophrenic vs adult onset ?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:30 PM
Nov 2013

But I remember the first time he tried to kill himself was before he was 15, so they hospitalized him. But although the voices started at that time, he was having big problems with controlling his temper and odd behavior for quite a few years. He was very smart and incredibly creative, but had a lot of trouble getting along with people. He would constantly provoke fights, but I honestly think he never meant to hurt anyone physically, he did whatever he could to provoke a reaction of crying or screaming, so there was a bit of physical abuse too. He did destroy a lot of things, and things escalated through his teen years with my sisters mostly over that. (They were closer in age and 7-11 years older than me) I don't remember him ever having any friends really. He had another suicide attempt around 16 1/2- 17 and spent the rest of his life hospitalized and heavily medicated - this was before meds for schizophrenia- until his third, successful attempt. He started a fire on the ward, and the guards chased him- he ran up to the roof and jumped off.
Back then they had nothing at all for schizophrenia, and it runs heavily in my family. I also have a very close cousin who lived with us during her breakdown, just a few years after him, but her onset was later- about 18- 19 before we saw symptoms. Her family never got good medical help or other resources because her sociopath Mom admittedly enjoyed keeping her around the house, so she has been a hopeless mess for almost 40 years now. Very intelligent and creative too, a wonderfully sensitive girl- last time I saw her she was telling me about these long, involved, conversations she had with her parakeet. It is fucking heart breaking to see these lives go down the toilet over a little brain chemistry. Heart breaking.
Sorry to go on- it is a hard thing to edit.

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That's just bizarre. I smell an undiagnosed paranoid schizpohrenic.......... kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #1
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We have dozens in our garage. My husband used to pick them up at Ace and ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #3
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True. I wonder if it wasn't something he could have grabbed from a maintenance cart or something. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #6
Reports say he got it from the art classroom. Nt hack89 Nov 2013 #9
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What on earth does that have to do with whether or not he's schizophrenic???? kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #13
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I suspect you are wrong. uppityperson Nov 2013 #17
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It is bizarre. They diagnose kids usually, or has that changed? ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #4
He had recently moved to that school distrction BainsBane Nov 2013 #7
and the teen years are when it usually has first onset.... bettyellen Nov 2013 #11
They can come prepared also, MoonRiver Nov 2013 #8
fourteen is when the voices started with my brother, but he had smaller problems for years before. bettyellen Nov 2013 #12
Did he have childhood schizophrenia? MoonRiver Nov 2013 #19
thanks- I don't think they made a distinction back then - childhood schizophrenic vs adult onset ? bettyellen Nov 2013 #25
I'm so sorry you and your family went through all this. MoonRiver Nov 2013 #26
Thank you, it was horrible for my Mom. She was blamed for it, of course, and it really knocked bettyellen Nov 2013 #28
Oh my gosh, you all have been through so much. MoonRiver Nov 2013 #29
I am pretty much the only one who is well, alive and not an alcoholic. bettyellen Nov 2013 #30
No problem betty allen! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #31
Can we stop shaming the mentally ill and saying all horrific crimes are done by them? Kurska Nov 2013 #14
I think when something so horrific like this happens Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #16
If it was a logical way of thinking it wouldn't bother me as much Kurska Nov 2013 #20
true and it could be the same with Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #23
Very much so, our society very heavily stigmatizes any kind of mental healthcare Kurska Nov 2013 #24
I don't think it's about understanding mythology Nov 2013 #21
good point... Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #22
I think that she guessed schizophrenia because of the "talking to themselves" part, I have to say bettyellen Nov 2013 #27
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